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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 9135218" data-attributes="member: 6704184">The entire OT has the same morality, and it has moral complexity from the first half of episode 4 when Han shoots first. Moral complexity does not require the sort of ambiguity being discussed here, nor for the Force itself to be ambiguous. They all do some stuff that isn’t perfectly good (like I said already upthread, being Light Side doesn’t require that), without ever being “grey” in the sense of balancing light and dark sides. They aren’t grey, they’re just imperfect. Well, he does know better, but yeah that doesn’t make him grey. Even the council respect him as a Jedi Master, he just isn’t willing to be a politician so he isn’t on the council. EU, yeah. “Grey” force users are all over the EU. Pretty much. This is an absurd leap. Being guided by the force does not mean acting without free will by any reasonable stretch of imagination. Quo-Gon and Yoda are both guided by the force. There isn’t a light side to use, they use the force, and don’t seem to directly tap into thier own darkness for power. Beyond that, I’m not ready to discuss them in depth until the show is done. Only number 2 makes any sense for the term. Calling the Matukai “grey” is silly. They’re more strictly Light than the Jedi.</blockquote>