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<blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 9886263" data-attributes="member: 6778210"><p>No, it's to point out that your method of research has problems and you should probably understand those problems when you are going into it rather than trying to just post it and learn about it after the fact. AI summaries <em>can </em>be accurate, but the more abstract stuff is where it runs into the most trouble: when you are asking it to try and interpret stuff or look for something that isn't already spelled out in the text, it starts trying to make stuff up to get a response.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The history of copyright protection is to protect against theft, which is also why we often refer to it as <em>"piracy</em>". Which, again, relates it back to traditional rules and the expansion thereof: we had rules for physical property theft because that was something that mattered very early in human history. We didn't need to worry about <em>intellectual</em> property theft for a while, largely because the conditions didn't make it into a real problem until industrialization.</p><p></p><p>Like, the argument you are making is the sort of argument that would say that the internet isn't bound by free speech rules because it was not conceived or spelled out at the time of the Founders. And yet, somehow, we realize that a new concept is still related to old concepts; we have new modes of communication, but we still want to apply old ideas to them.</p><p></p><p>I would say if you want to boldly assert that this idea came out of whole cloth, completely unrelated to the idea of theft or rightful ownership (which, again, creates the relation to theft), then post your evidence. You ever try asking your AI to tell you its sources so that you can track them down and use them yourself? Google summaries do contain links, after all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Justice and Rule, post: 9886263, member: 6778210"] No, it's to point out that your method of research has problems and you should probably understand those problems when you are going into it rather than trying to just post it and learn about it after the fact. AI summaries [I]can [/I]be accurate, but the more abstract stuff is where it runs into the most trouble: when you are asking it to try and interpret stuff or look for something that isn't already spelled out in the text, it starts trying to make stuff up to get a response. The history of copyright protection is to protect against theft, which is also why we often refer to it as [I]"piracy[/I]". Which, again, relates it back to traditional rules and the expansion thereof: we had rules for physical property theft because that was something that mattered very early in human history. We didn't need to worry about [I]intellectual[/I] property theft for a while, largely because the conditions didn't make it into a real problem until industrialization. Like, the argument you are making is the sort of argument that would say that the internet isn't bound by free speech rules because it was not conceived or spelled out at the time of the Founders. And yet, somehow, we realize that a new concept is still related to old concepts; we have new modes of communication, but we still want to apply old ideas to them. I would say if you want to boldly assert that this idea came out of whole cloth, completely unrelated to the idea of theft or rightful ownership (which, again, creates the relation to theft), then post your evidence. You ever try asking your AI to tell you its sources so that you can track them down and use them yourself? Google summaries do contain links, after all. [/QUOTE]
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