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Message: <blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 9816976" data-attributes="member: 86653">I was going to avoid engaging with the discussion but it's been on my mind a lot lately. Just to get it out there, here goes. I agree 100% with the people who say that humans create art. I just disagree with when they place that creation in the process. It's not when a person makes a thing that it becomes art. It's also rather telling that most people can't agree what is and isn't art. But we'll get back to that. Arguing that so-called “AI” art has to be technically perfect before it could be considered art is a bad argument for two reasons. First, there will come a point when so-called “AI” art will produce technically perfect art...and it'll be sooner than we think. It's not really a counter, more like kicking the can down the street. Second, plenty of human artists have created world-renowned masterpieces that are far from technically perfect. See just about everything that's not photo-realistic painting, cubism, surrealism, etc. Arguing that it's not art without a human consciousness intentionally creating something is also a bad argument because it throws away the long history of found art and various happy accidents that have created both wonderful art and entire movements of art. See Jackson Pollock as just one example of many. Something becomes art when humans look at it and they consider it beautiful, inspiring, well made, when it evokes an emotional response, etc. This is also why people can't agree what is actually art. Because it's a preference. Like a fetish. You're into anime and manga, then it's art. You hate anime and manga, then it's not art. See any generational argument about music for more examples. If you look at an image and think it's beautiful and it evokes an emotional response in you, that's art. If you then find out it's so-called “AI” art and instantly reject your previous assessment you've just given up the game. Despite all that, I'm still 100% on the side of the people who will lose their jobs and livelihoods because of “AI” and any other form of automation. It's only in a wildly evil system such as this that these kinds of things would lead to people losing everything instead of getting days off.</blockquote>

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