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<blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 9366564" data-attributes="member: 467">But is it probitive for people to.use tools to enhance their talent? Does that make it not art?Gatekeepering art behind &quot;craft and talent&quot; is elitist nonsense. If it weren't, no digital photographer in the world would be an artist, or one who uses CNC machines or other technical aids. The only difference is that right now, people feel perfectly comfortable calling other people names because some techbro venture capitalists want to use the tool in a bad way.Think of it this way: photoshop is a phenomenally useful tool that has allowed artists to create all kinds of things that simply weren't possible beforehand. It also let's propagandists damage democracy and let's the media and beauty industry harm people (mostly young women). Does that mean there are no legitimate artistic uses of Photoshop?Another thing to consider I'd that AI can't do anything on its own. It requires human input and curating. Is there a metric buttload of low effort AI generated text and images? Of course there is. But that doesn't mean some people aren't using it for legitimate, interesting, innovative art right now.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Reynard, post: 9366564, member: 467"] But is it probitive for people to.use tools to enhance their talent? Does that make it not art? Gatekeepering art behind "craft and talent" is elitist nonsense. If it weren't, no digital photographer in the world would be an artist, or one who uses CNC machines or other technical aids. The only difference is that right now, people feel perfectly comfortable calling other people names because some techbro venture capitalists want to use the tool in a bad way. Think of it this way: photoshop is a phenomenally useful tool that has allowed artists to create all kinds of things that simply weren't possible beforehand. It also let's propagandists damage democracy and let's the media and beauty industry harm people (mostly young women). Does that mean there are no legitimate artistic uses of Photoshop? Another thing to consider I'd that AI can't do anything on its own. It requires human input and curating. Is there a metric buttload of low effort AI generated text and images? Of course there is. But that doesn't mean some people aren't using it for legitimate, interesting, innovative art right now. [/QUOTE]

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