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<blockquote data-quote="Gradine" data-source="post: 9366581" data-attributes="member: 57112">You are comparing apples to oranges. Any tool can be used to create art when it is the human doing the creating. Something like a Photoshop tool or digital art app might be more sophisticated than a paintbrush or a chisel, but it is still being manually manipulated to translate conception into physical (or visual) art.Typing a prompt to generate an image is not even remotely the same thing. Nothing in the image itself was put there by a human. Generative AI is not an artistic tool, it is a shortcut, dreamed up primarily by people who want to stop having to pay creatives and sold to people who've been convinced it's not worth it to put in the effort themselves. Which is absolutely a lie.Let me put it this way. If I told my daughter to draw a picture of a dragon, and she draws it, do I get to say that I created that art? What if I gave her a really detailed prompt? Am I making art then? Thomas Kincaid, put your hand down. Obviously the answer is no. I'm not creating art at all. My daughter is, but she's also a human, utilizing imagination and craft. If I tell a program to make a picture of a dragon, it's going to follow its no doubt sophisticated algorithms to smash together visual elements into something that's as close as its programming can think of a dragon to be, and it will no doubt scan its databanks for visual elements to match every bit of detail I put into the prompt as possible. But it's not art.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gradine, post: 9366581, member: 57112"] You are comparing apples to oranges. Any tool can be used to create art when it is the human doing the creating. Something like a Photoshop tool or digital art app might be more sophisticated than a paintbrush or a chisel, but it is still being [I]manually manipulated[/I] to translate conception into physical (or visual) art. Typing a prompt to generate an image is not even remotely the same thing. Nothing in the image itself was put there by a human. Generative AI is not an artistic tool, it is a shortcut, dreamed up primarily by people who want to stop having to pay creatives and sold to people who've been convinced it's not worth it to put in the effort themselves. Which is absolutely a lie. Let me put it this way. If I told my daughter to draw a picture of a dragon, and she draws it, do I get to say that I created that art? What if I gave her a really detailed prompt? Am I making art then? Thomas Kincaid, put your hand down. Obviously the answer is no. I'm not creating art at all. My daughter is, but she's also a human, utilizing imagination and craft. If I tell a program to make a picture of a dragon, it's going to follow its no doubt sophisticated algorithms to smash together visual elements into something that's as close as its programming can think of a dragon to be, and it will no doubt scan its databanks for visual elements to match every bit of detail I put into the prompt as possible. But it's not [I]art.[/I] [/QUOTE]

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