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<blockquote data-quote="Spatula" data-source="post: 4078370" data-attributes="member: 2198">Because it's a very common mistake, and there was nothing to indicate that it was taken into account.&nbsp; And likening the multiplication of 3 terms to calculus (hyperbole, I know) doesn't impress me to the author's mathmatical bonafides.I could probably dig around and find a 3e playtest report that said the same sort of thing - &quot;The EL system makes building encounters a breeze!&nbsp; For example you can take 8 lvl 1 orcs and see that they're an appropriate challenge for a level 7 party&quot; or somesuch.&nbsp; The rules explicitly state this, but they are wrong.&nbsp; That is not obvious at first blush, though.See my previous post.&nbsp; The system doesn't assume the existence of Magic Item Walmarts; DMs do.&nbsp; The system also doesn't (and shouldn't) assume you have to spend an entire game session trying to unload unwanted loot for a decent price; DMs do.&nbsp; Some people like it one way, some the other, most are probably inbetween.&nbsp; In my games I allow the players to liquidate unwanted items and commission upgrades &amp; new items given the proper location and enough downtime, so that we can get back to butt-kicking.&nbsp; Some people prefer to haggle and roleplay that stuff, and that's fine.&nbsp; The DMG makes no assumptions on how the items are acquired.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Spatula, post: 4078370, member: 2198"] Because it's a very common mistake, and there was nothing to indicate that it was taken into account. And likening the multiplication of 3 terms to calculus (hyperbole, I know) doesn't impress me to the author's mathmatical bonafides. I could probably dig around and find a 3e playtest report that said the same sort of thing - "The EL system makes building encounters a breeze! For example you can take 8 lvl 1 orcs and see that they're an appropriate challenge for a level 7 party" or somesuch. The rules explicitly state this, but they are wrong. That is not obvious at first blush, though. See my previous post. The system doesn't assume the existence of Magic Item Walmarts; DMs do. The system also doesn't (and shouldn't) assume you have to spend an entire game session trying to unload unwanted loot for a decent price; DMs do. Some people like it one way, some the other, most are probably inbetween. In my games I allow the players to liquidate unwanted items and commission upgrades & new items given the proper location and enough downtime, so that we can get back to butt-kicking. Some people prefer to haggle and roleplay that stuff, and that's fine. The DMG makes no assumptions on how the items are acquired. [/QUOTE]

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