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Message: <blockquote data-quote="smathis" data-source="post: 4080679" data-attributes="member: 56465">I prefer gaming with pen-and-paper as well. I'm a little disappointed because Mearls had stated previously that 4e would support play without minis. I'll hope for a clarification in the PHB or DMG but, honestly, pigs might fly before I see that.One group I ran 3.x for was very into minis and grids. I didn't have the funds to buy a ton of minis and, honestly, no other group I had run for or played with used them.So I bought a couple bags of counting bears from Wal-Mart. Check in the school supplies section.It was priceless to pull out these little bears and place them on a grid, especially after the group had figured out my color-coding."Dude! It's a PURPLE bear! He's pulling out a PURPLE bear! Run!"If 4e's gift to the next generation of gamers is that RPGs happen only on a grid, my gift will be that all monsters are cute, lovable plastic bears in a variety of day-glo colors.Barring that, the bags of zombies for "Zombies" and catching the Descent boardgame on eBay are great sources of relatively inexpensive minis.As are the aforementioned glass beads, poker chips and cardstock counters.Still, I'd prefer to be able to just sit down like we did in 1e and 2e and be able to play 4e without all these props. My imagination works just fine.Please, if hell holds off freezing over for a few more months, I might see a sidebar or something the 4e DMG...</blockquote>