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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 4081890" data-attributes="member: 957">Am I the only one who sees a whole lot of irony here?In item after item regarding 3E the attack has been that &quot;my players are very smart and it isn't that XYZ is 'too hard', it is just that having to keep up with it was a distraction.&nbsp; But suddenly when the same type issue is raised regarding 4E the defenses that just couldn't possibly suffice in 3E are instantly transformed into a slam dunk solution.Are you actually saying that it would have taken you 1 second longer to resolve this in 3e?&nbsp; Since I first saw this as an example I've had to shake my head.&nbsp; It strongly colors my view of the opinions being expressed when someone sees this as an issue worth even mentioning.Wow.&nbsp; I'm really sorry your experiences with 3e were not up on the level of what I have enjoyed.Of course I've yet to see a bad DM suddenly change his stripes in a new system.&nbsp; The specific ways it comes out may change.&nbsp; But the nature remains.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 4081890, member: 957"] Am I the only one who sees a whole lot of irony here? In item after item regarding 3E the attack has been that "my players are very smart and it isn't that XYZ is 'too hard', it is just that having to keep up with it was a distraction. But suddenly when the same type issue is raised regarding 4E the defenses that just couldn't possibly suffice in 3E are instantly transformed into a slam dunk solution. Are you actually saying that it would have taken you 1 second longer to resolve this in 3e? Since I first saw this as an example I've had to shake my head. It strongly colors my view of the opinions being expressed when someone sees this as an issue worth even mentioning. Wow. I'm really sorry your experiences with 3e were not up on the level of what I have enjoyed. Of course I've yet to see a bad DM suddenly change his stripes in a new system. The specific ways it comes out may change. But the nature remains. [/QUOTE]

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