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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2095063" data-attributes="member: 23094">That's not the appropriate reading, I don't think.&nbsp; By leaving out parts of that sentence, you've changed the way it should be read.Can a kobold outside the grapple make a melee attack on the grappled human?&nbsp; Certainly.&nbsp; So he could certainly use the Aid Another action to grant the grappling koboldThe question then becomes whether or not a grapple check follows any of those rules.If the grappling kobold decided to attack with a light or natural weapon, then certainly it would apply, as both of those require attack rolls.A grapple check, however, is not an attack roll - though it shares many similarities.&nbsp; Therefore, it does not apply in the &quot;base case.&quot;So, if I wanted to extend the Aid Another rules to cover grapple checks, I'd make use of this part of the Aid Another rules:However, I'd rule that the kobolds would need to follow the normal way such things work.&nbsp; If you want to Aid Another on a Disable Device check, you need to make your own Disable Device check.&nbsp; If you want to Aid Another on a Search check, you need to make a Search check.Therefore, if you want to Aid Another on a Grapple check, you must make your own Grapple check against a DC of 10.&nbsp; You must therefore also be grappling with the target you want to provide the bonus against.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 2095063, member: 23094"] That's not the appropriate reading, I don't think. By leaving out parts of that sentence, you've changed the way it should be read. Can a kobold outside the grapple make a melee attack on the grappled human? Certainly. So he could certainly use the Aid Another action to grant the grappling kobold The question then becomes whether or not a grapple check follows any of those rules. If the grappling kobold decided to attack with a light or natural weapon, then certainly it would apply, as both of those require attack rolls. A grapple check, however, is not an attack roll - though it shares many similarities. Therefore, it does not apply in the "base case." So, if I wanted to extend the Aid Another rules to cover grapple checks, I'd make use of this part of the Aid Another rules: However, I'd rule that the kobolds would need to follow the normal way such things work. If you want to Aid Another on a Disable Device check, you need to make your own Disable Device check. If you want to Aid Another on a Search check, you need to make a Search check. Therefore, if you want to Aid Another on a Grapple check, you must make your own Grapple check against a DC of 10. You must therefore also be grappling with the target you want to provide the bonus against. [/QUOTE]

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