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<blockquote data-quote="Keenath" data-source="post: 4328885" data-attributes="member: 59792">Do you suppose it would cause havoc to the system to change Aid Another?It seems weird to me that A) it's the same DC to aid on a very simple or a very complex task, and B) that high level characters can automatically provide aid on virtually any task.Back in 3.x, a static Aid DC made sense.&nbsp; A 20th level character who never put any effort into learning Diplomacy would have only his charisma modifier adding to his rolls, and was therefore most likely to have a miniscule bonus, if any.In 4e, though, a 20th level character has a +10 to all his skills before you even consider ability bonuses, and that adds up to an automatic success even if you have an 8 in the associated ability score.So, my idea is this:Instead of a static DC 10 for aiding, the Aid DC is the same as the task's DC, but you get a +5 bonus on your check.That seems to work okay for low levels, but I'm thinking it needs a little more of a boost at the uppers -- maybe it should be +10 at paragon and +15 at epic?What do you folks think?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Keenath, post: 4328885, member: 59792"] Do you suppose it would cause havoc to the system to change Aid Another? It seems weird to me that A) it's the same DC to aid on a very simple or a very complex task, and B) that high level characters can automatically provide aid on virtually any task. Back in 3.x, a static Aid DC made sense. A 20th level character who never put any effort into learning Diplomacy would have only his charisma modifier adding to his rolls, and was therefore most likely to have a miniscule bonus, if any. In 4e, though, a 20th level character has a +10 to all his skills before you even consider ability bonuses, and that adds up to an automatic success even if you have an 8 in the associated ability score. So, my idea is this: Instead of a static DC 10 for aiding, the Aid DC is the same as the task's DC, but you get a +5 bonus on your check. That seems to work okay for low levels, but I'm thinking it needs a little more of a boost at the uppers -- maybe it should be +10 at paragon and +15 at epic? What do you folks think? [/QUOTE]

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