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Message: <blockquote data-quote="perrinmiller" data-source="post: 6436941" data-attributes="member: 88649">Consider this, Mowgli. Take a look at higher level games with characters like Frost.  Her Defense under the "Armor as DR" variant is 15, but she has DR of 15 to balance against the mundane damage. However, her opponents are getting multiple attacks with Attack bonuses of +20 and +15 on secondary attacks. That's 19 hits out of 20. Guess what happens when they have added ability damages like level drain.  She is hit on nearly every attack and needing like more saves per turn.Looking at level 1 those goblins and kobolds rolling 1d4 damage dice are hardly doing anything to most characters with Studded Leather armor or better. A fighter with scale mail armor is practically invincible against a horde of them.The more I look into it, I am starting to really question the balance issues.</blockquote>