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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hafrogman" data-source="post: 4468702" data-attributes="member: 8858">No worries on that count, as I said, merely a first crack.  I appreciate any views that come back.Divine spells may be generally weaker than arcane, but I find the bard's spell list dramatically weaker still.  I regarded the upgrade to the full clerical list as a quite significant boost, even limited progression as it is.  Either way, as far as spell casting goes, I don't think full clerical progression would work with my design philosophy, and I'm hesitant to try and create my own wholly new progression chart in the middle.I guess I should mention a little of what I was going for here.  I find D&D very difficult to play without a dedicated healer, but I find the cleric class a little too boilerplate for my taste.  There's very little room for variety in the class.  Also, the healing powers of a high level cleric can become too much, in my opinion.  But a bard, paladin or ranger would be not enough.  So, something in between.  Something that could serve as a party's only healer without seriously impeding the group, and allowing a little more room for customization.Heh, from too weak, to too much.  But I think I see what you're aiming at here.  This was actually meant to be my sub for bardic music, just a little more self-centered.  But it is a little focused, it would probably be better to pull back a bit here, and spread the love elsewhere, as it were.  I do tend to prefer always on vs. per day though, so I'll see what springs to mind.  This is probably the only point I'll actually fight you on.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Acolyte CAN mean a neophyte, but I was using it more in the priestly rank sense.  Then when I was looking it up just now, I came across the base etymology.  Gk akólouthos follower, attendant, equiv. to a- prefix denoting association + -kolouthos, var. of kéleuthos road, journeyAnd I decided "follower of the path" was a really GOOD name.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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