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<blockquote data-quote="Bravesword" data-source="post: 6806302" data-attributes="member: 61095"><p>@<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6798775" target="_blank">Ath-kethin</a></u></strong></em>, I disagree with your statements in some points.</p><p></p><p>While Zakhara indeed have a different feeling than a “standard” FR setting, it also have some connections with Toril as a whole (which surely may or may not be explored, and I agree with you on this).</p><p></p><p>Some foreign gods described in Al-Qadim as foreign powers represent in fact different approaches or interpretations of Faerunian Gods. While the deities relationship with its worshipers are indeed quite different, and considering that we could have here cool unique opportunities to roleplay such relationships, I do not believe that this is a problem after all. The AD&D 2nd Edition supplement Faiths and Avatars even describe essentially the spheres of influence of Toril Powers, and in this sense Kara Tur and Zakhara are totally independent and outside of the influence of Faerunian deities.</p><p></p><p>We could use the monsters presented in the A,-Qadim Monstrous Compendium as a whole to begin to adapt old entities to the updated Lad of Fate for D&D 5e, without having to adapt western creatures and mythology to the setting, just like you said. In other cases, beings like genasi and tieflings could be included in Zakhara with little or no effort at all (I personally believe that genasi is much more suited for Zakhara than dwarves, elves and goblins, for example), so I think that if we keep the flavor or the setting while including new stuff, this could be a great way to update the setting.</p><p></p><p>With respect to the argument that Zakhara is not Arabian or Middle Eastern influenced, I do not see things this way. The Arabian Nights themselves were based upon a fantastic setting with genies, dervishes and fantastic creatures within a, well, Middle Eastern influence, with oasis, vizirs, sands and genies, which have their roots in Arabian, Persian, Iranian, Turkish and others cultures. In this sense, both Arabian Nights and Al-Qadim drank from the same cultural fountain, just like FR received most of his influence from European cultures and Tolkien.</p><p></p><p>Regarding your metaplot argument, in this case I believe that you could be right. The fact that the Al-Qadim is free of a huge “metaplot” may be a quality, but also could represent in some cases a lack of evolution or change in a fantasy setting, IMHO. The metaplot itself could not represent the drive of the setting, a problem that unfortunately FR suffered in its long list of Realms Shaking Events. But an evolution or development of local politics, the presentation of new threats or some “recent history” section could reflect that Zakharan culture could be so exciting and alive like its western counterpart (and maybe without the metaplot heavy problems of Faerun, in fact).</p><p></p><p>In this respect, just like @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=65948" target="_blank">DrOct</a></u></strong></em> said – keep what you like and ignore what does not make sense to you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bravesword, post: 6806302, member: 61095"] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6798775"]Ath-kethin[/URL][/U][/B][/I], I disagree with your statements in some points. While Zakhara indeed have a different feeling than a “standard” FR setting, it also have some connections with Toril as a whole (which surely may or may not be explored, and I agree with you on this). Some foreign gods described in Al-Qadim as foreign powers represent in fact different approaches or interpretations of Faerunian Gods. While the deities relationship with its worshipers are indeed quite different, and considering that we could have here cool unique opportunities to roleplay such relationships, I do not believe that this is a problem after all. The AD&D 2nd Edition supplement Faiths and Avatars even describe essentially the spheres of influence of Toril Powers, and in this sense Kara Tur and Zakhara are totally independent and outside of the influence of Faerunian deities. We could use the monsters presented in the A,-Qadim Monstrous Compendium as a whole to begin to adapt old entities to the updated Lad of Fate for D&D 5e, without having to adapt western creatures and mythology to the setting, just like you said. In other cases, beings like genasi and tieflings could be included in Zakhara with little or no effort at all (I personally believe that genasi is much more suited for Zakhara than dwarves, elves and goblins, for example), so I think that if we keep the flavor or the setting while including new stuff, this could be a great way to update the setting. With respect to the argument that Zakhara is not Arabian or Middle Eastern influenced, I do not see things this way. The Arabian Nights themselves were based upon a fantastic setting with genies, dervishes and fantastic creatures within a, well, Middle Eastern influence, with oasis, vizirs, sands and genies, which have their roots in Arabian, Persian, Iranian, Turkish and others cultures. In this sense, both Arabian Nights and Al-Qadim drank from the same cultural fountain, just like FR received most of his influence from European cultures and Tolkien. Regarding your metaplot argument, in this case I believe that you could be right. The fact that the Al-Qadim is free of a huge “metaplot” may be a quality, but also could represent in some cases a lack of evolution or change in a fantasy setting, IMHO. The metaplot itself could not represent the drive of the setting, a problem that unfortunately FR suffered in its long list of Realms Shaking Events. But an evolution or development of local politics, the presentation of new threats or some “recent history” section could reflect that Zakharan culture could be so exciting and alive like its western counterpart (and maybe without the metaplot heavy problems of Faerun, in fact). In this respect, just like @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=65948"]DrOct[/URL][/U][/B][/I] said – keep what you like and ignore what does not make sense to you. [/QUOTE]
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