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<blockquote data-quote="Gadget" data-source="post: 7027968" data-attributes="member: 23716"><p>You raise some good points, but this where DM adjudication needs to play a crucial part. IMO, Any DM worth his/her salt would not allow the <em>Alarm</em> spell to be turned into a free find-out-stuff-about people spell. I would put this in the old bag o'rats category ("the ability says I get to do this when adjacent to or I damage a 'hostile' creature; I keep this bag of rats on hand that I treat poorly to fulfill the requirement"). </p><p></p><p>Looking at the spell text specifically it says: <strong>"When you cast the spell, you can designate <em>creatures</em> that won’t set off the alarm". </strong>Ipersonally would interpret this as naming specific creature(s) (Fred, Jane, and my cat Mr. Wiskers), or a specific category of creature (goblins, fiends, cats, and yes: dwarves). Maybe I would further allow sex or adult/child designations. Something along the lines of: "those of us present here at the casting" would be acceptable as well (leaving open the possibility of an invisible/disguised adversary accidentally being included). As such, something like 'wizard' would be pushing my interpretation of the spell. Though I am amendable to the 'Rule of Cool' and could possibly be convinced otherwise.</p><p></p><p>Here is a question: If the party had instead Polymorphed into dwarves, would the disguise have worked? I'm inclined to say yes, based on the spell description of <em>creatures</em>, assuming whoever cast the spell did it that way instead of specifically designating each enslaved dwarf individually. </p><p></p><p>What if the spell was cast to allow in only the King's Vizier, could one Alter Self/Polymorph oneself to that specific form and fool the spell? What say you?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gadget, post: 7027968, member: 23716"] You raise some good points, but this where DM adjudication needs to play a crucial part. IMO, Any DM worth his/her salt would not allow the [I]Alarm[/I] spell to be turned into a free find-out-stuff-about people spell. I would put this in the old bag o'rats category ("the ability says I get to do this when adjacent to or I damage a 'hostile' creature; I keep this bag of rats on hand that I treat poorly to fulfill the requirement"). Looking at the spell text specifically it says: [B]"When you cast the spell, you can designate [I]creatures[/I] that won’t set off the alarm". [/B]Ipersonally would interpret this as naming specific creature(s) (Fred, Jane, and my cat Mr. Wiskers), or a specific category of creature (goblins, fiends, cats, and yes: dwarves). Maybe I would further allow sex or adult/child designations. Something along the lines of: "those of us present here at the casting" would be acceptable as well (leaving open the possibility of an invisible/disguised adversary accidentally being included). As such, something like 'wizard' would be pushing my interpretation of the spell. Though I am amendable to the 'Rule of Cool' and could possibly be convinced otherwise. Here is a question: If the party had instead Polymorphed into dwarves, would the disguise have worked? I'm inclined to say yes, based on the spell description of [I]creatures[/I], assuming whoever cast the spell did it that way instead of specifically designating each enslaved dwarf individually. What if the spell was cast to allow in only the King's Vizier, could one Alter Self/Polymorph oneself to that specific form and fool the spell? What say you? [/QUOTE]
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