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<blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 335853" data-attributes="member: 2829"><p>This discussion is far from heated. I have been replying to you in kind.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, not heated. I wasn't being cruel at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course it is. Read the spell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly. Which means that when the affected item strikes a surface, it doesn't break, as that is the trigger for the spell to restore the item to it's original size.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I never said it did. I don't know where you're getting that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See previous answer.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I stated that for one reason: you're trying too hard to apply real world laws and physics to a fantasy roleplaying game. That doesn't really work.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That was just a snarky comment, as is evident by the <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> emoticon. Apparently, you took it seriously.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not entirely. AuraSeer no doubt got part of that from the description of the Glove of Storing, which shrinks items and store them in stasis using the Shrink Item spell. I agree, however, that description of the glove can't be directly applied to the spell itself, but the intent is there if you turn the item into cloth. It's pretty ambiguous.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not a moot point at all. By your logic, a jar will automatically break if used as a grenade-like weapon. What if the jar is made of adamantine? Will it automatically break then? No. Why? Higher hardness and more hit points. A glass jar that is designed to hold 5-gallons of fluid would need to be pretty damn hefty compared to a glass flask designed to hold an ounce of fluid. The jar would need to be thicker to support the volume inside. Otherwise, the jar would burst from the pressure against its surfaces. If the jar were designed to be as thin as a flash, that's fine, but it would still need to be of superior design, as it would still need to be able to withstand the pressure of the greater amount of liquid.</p><p></p><p>By your rationale, if I use an adamantine jar as a grenade-like weapon, it will automatically break. To put it plainly, and no insult intended, but this is simply ludicrous.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you suddenly have the glassblowing skill, whereas you didn't think you needed it before. I find that odd.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Definately.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm inclined to agree.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See fifth answer.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See 5th answer.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm inclined to agree, more or less.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, the burden is upon you to show where the heck I ever stated that the spell affects the hardness of the item.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Possibly, but I fail to see how it matters.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That kinda sounds like it's in a form of stasis, doesn't it? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kreynolds, post: 335853, member: 2829"] This discussion is far from heated. I have been replying to you in kind. Again, not heated. I wasn't being cruel at all. Of course it is. Read the spell. Exactly. Which means that when the affected item strikes a surface, it doesn't break, as that is the trigger for the spell to restore the item to it's original size. I never said it did. I don't know where you're getting that. See previous answer. I stated that for one reason: you're trying too hard to apply real world laws and physics to a fantasy roleplaying game. That doesn't really work. That was just a snarky comment, as is evident by the ;) emoticon. Apparently, you took it seriously. Not entirely. AuraSeer no doubt got part of that from the description of the Glove of Storing, which shrinks items and store them in stasis using the Shrink Item spell. I agree, however, that description of the glove can't be directly applied to the spell itself, but the intent is there if you turn the item into cloth. It's pretty ambiguous. It's not a moot point at all. By your logic, a jar will automatically break if used as a grenade-like weapon. What if the jar is made of adamantine? Will it automatically break then? No. Why? Higher hardness and more hit points. A glass jar that is designed to hold 5-gallons of fluid would need to be pretty damn hefty compared to a glass flask designed to hold an ounce of fluid. The jar would need to be thicker to support the volume inside. Otherwise, the jar would burst from the pressure against its surfaces. If the jar were designed to be as thin as a flash, that's fine, but it would still need to be of superior design, as it would still need to be able to withstand the pressure of the greater amount of liquid. By your rationale, if I use an adamantine jar as a grenade-like weapon, it will automatically break. To put it plainly, and no insult intended, but this is simply ludicrous. So you suddenly have the glassblowing skill, whereas you didn't think you needed it before. I find that odd. Definately. I'm inclined to agree. See fifth answer. See 5th answer. I'm inclined to agree, more or less. Actually, the burden is upon you to show where the heck I ever stated that the spell affects the hardness of the item. Possibly, but I fail to see how it matters. That kinda sounds like it's in a form of stasis, doesn't it? :D [/QUOTE]
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