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<blockquote data-quote="Shalewind" data-source="post: 341144" data-attributes="member: 6146"><p>Can't Resist... Must... take... bait... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Gotta ask, BigK. How would you do it? (Assuming we were trying to eh, "rape" the poor little Shrink Item spell?)</p><p></p><p>Psifon: Question. Alright, your position is that the spell ends in a combo Activation/Impact combo right? Meaning, that the velocity of an object is maintained during or after the transformation? Correct?</p><p></p><p>This is not an attack, I'm merely asking if this is how you view the spell. If so... If I shrunk any item and toss it to the ground, i.e. four foot drop (Hey, I'm tall. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />) isn't that going to cause some problems? Your shrunk campfire is going to go everywhere, most delicate items (including flasks and the like) are going to break, etc... And this is all assuming this whole velocity transference thing is all relative to the object AFTER its been reverted. (Four feet to that shrunken once inch humanoid is DEATH if you went by relative size...) My end point here is that I don't think the intent of the designers was to be CAREFUL while tossing the "Toss onto solid surface" activation clause. I know there is a command word, but still... The spell is meant to be a transport aid, and yes you are creative in coming up with alternative usages. My position on the whole velocity impact issue is going to have to be a no go.</p><p></p><p>As to the doing more damage than lava or acid issue... I view concentrated Alchemist Fire kinda like I do Thermite Plasma. I get far away from it whenever possible and don't look directly at the flare... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Yes, it is his opinion. Intent is Important. Intent is what causes rules to be changed in the FAQ and Erratas. Intent is what saves us from the ravaging hoards of munckins... (No offensive intended to those mild mannered munckins...)</p><p></p><p>I'm just begining to see the uses (abuses?) of the Shrink Item spell. Those of you that haven't checked out the rectangle of doom ought to. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> </p><p></p><p>My fav so far has got to be (in reference to Shrunk Power Items):</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shalewind, post: 341144, member: 6146"] Can't Resist... Must... take... bait... :) Gotta ask, BigK. How would you do it? (Assuming we were trying to eh, "rape" the poor little Shrink Item spell?) Psifon: Question. Alright, your position is that the spell ends in a combo Activation/Impact combo right? Meaning, that the velocity of an object is maintained during or after the transformation? Correct? This is not an attack, I'm merely asking if this is how you view the spell. If so... If I shrunk any item and toss it to the ground, i.e. four foot drop (Hey, I'm tall. :)) isn't that going to cause some problems? Your shrunk campfire is going to go everywhere, most delicate items (including flasks and the like) are going to break, etc... And this is all assuming this whole velocity transference thing is all relative to the object AFTER its been reverted. (Four feet to that shrunken once inch humanoid is DEATH if you went by relative size...) My end point here is that I don't think the intent of the designers was to be CAREFUL while tossing the "Toss onto solid surface" activation clause. I know there is a command word, but still... The spell is meant to be a transport aid, and yes you are creative in coming up with alternative usages. My position on the whole velocity impact issue is going to have to be a no go. As to the doing more damage than lava or acid issue... I view concentrated Alchemist Fire kinda like I do Thermite Plasma. I get far away from it whenever possible and don't look directly at the flare... :cool: Yes, it is his opinion. Intent is Important. Intent is what causes rules to be changed in the FAQ and Erratas. Intent is what saves us from the ravaging hoards of munckins... (No offensive intended to those mild mannered munckins...) I'm just begining to see the uses (abuses?) of the Shrink Item spell. Those of you that haven't checked out the rectangle of doom ought to. :eek: My fav so far has got to be (in reference to Shrunk Power Items): [/QUOTE]
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