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<blockquote data-quote="Kaisoku" data-source="post: 5325439" data-attributes="member: 58447">It's mostly a flavor change. Look at only the mechanics and here's what you get:- Spellcasting in the form of creating an item beforehand that does the effect.- Explosives for a damage ability.- A way to boost ability scores/physical combat by creating something in advance and activating it when you need it.If you take those mechanics and put in &quot;gadgetry and craft/knowledge engineering&quot; instead of &quot;potions and craft/knowledge alchemy&quot;, you got yourself an artificer.Spellcasting turns into infusing items with magical properties to get your spells per day.Explosives... don't even really need a change, much (if at all).Mutagens turns into gadget prosthesis, or maybe a completely different option to make the flavor change.The fact that both concepts are &quot;make the thing ahead of time that creates the effects you wanted and activated later&quot; is why the Alchemist could emulate a good Artificer.Would it be the artificer from Eberron? Not really, but when I suggested it in other threads I wasn't saying that it would be a complete conversion, just a class theme possibility.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kaisoku, post: 5325439, member: 58447"] It's mostly a flavor change. Look at only the mechanics and here's what you get: - Spellcasting in the form of creating an item beforehand that does the effect. - Explosives for a damage ability. - A way to boost ability scores/physical combat by creating something in advance and activating it when you need it. If you take those mechanics and put in "gadgetry and craft/knowledge engineering" instead of "potions and craft/knowledge alchemy", you got yourself an artificer. Spellcasting turns into infusing items with magical properties to get your spells per day. Explosives... don't even really need a change, much (if at all). Mutagens turns into gadget prosthesis, or maybe a completely different option to make the flavor change. The fact that both concepts are "make the thing ahead of time that creates the effects you wanted and activated later" is why the Alchemist could emulate a good Artificer. Would it be the artificer from Eberron? Not really, but when I suggested it in other threads I wasn't saying that it would be a complete conversion, just a class theme possibility. [/QUOTE]

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