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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 6819202" data-attributes="member: 6788736">@<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6801315" target="_blank">Noctem</a> stated: I resolve whatever triggered combat first and then have initiative rolled. In the case of an attack, I resolve that specific attack. I then determine who is surprised and finally after all of that, round 1 begins.So If I scream 'I ATTACK' in Noctems game, I get one free attack before initiative is even rolled. Assuming I surprised my target (say I was invisible) I then get another turn on round 1 (while my target cant act). THEN assuming I rolled well on initiative I get a third turn on turn 2 before my opponent.So possibly three turns in a row. Which in 5e is a death sentence for my target.Dude, how am I stalking past a hidden invisible stalker? Im assuming if there is is monster in a room, and a PC as well, and theyre aware of each other, then initiative has already been rolled.If the invisible stalker is hidden (and I am not aware of it) then initiative is rolled and I am surprised on round 1. Of course. Its a hostile hidden monster. I would roll initaitive and use the rules for susprise.This is EXACTLY what they model dude.Again with this rubbish. Action during a combat round happens simultanously. People dont sit shock still for six seconds while other people move around. If you charge the Orc and your friend fireballs the orc, the fireball goes off at the same time you are running forward screaming. It is resovled a split second before you get there.Despite the 'stop start' nature of how the game models combat, all combatants are moving and fighting at the same time.I would not. If there is a hidden monster that wants to attack the party THERE ARE RULES FOR THIS.You determine surprise (the monster is hidden) and then roll initative. Any PC's that are unaware of the stalker are surprised and cant act on turn 1.No they certainly dont say that at all. They say the exact opposite (hidden creatures gain surprise).You determine if the PCs are the first to shoot with initiative.And in the case of the 'ridiculous' outliers that you cited that have a next to zero chance of ever cropping up, then the DM can rule otherwise. Thats his job after all.But a hidden creature initiating combat is not an outlier. Its a situation specifically contemplated by the rules.You determine awareness and surprise. You roll initiative. Then, in turn order you resolve actions, with susrpried combatants missing turn 1.I dont understand this paragraph.</blockquote>

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