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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 6820018" data-attributes="member: 6788736">If I was talking to an Ogre or an NPC and the DM said 'he attacks you' and then resolved it 'outside' of the combat sequence and initiative order, denying the player a chance to do anything about it, I would be pretty peeved. I mean, I'd roll with it and all, but unless there is a damn good reason for doing it, its not my cup of tea.Its just a massive deviation from the rules for no good reason other than DM whimsy.The switch from [narrative time] to [combat sequence] isnt noticible by the characters. Its how the game resolves hostile acts. You roll initiative to determine if actors in the combat can react in time to a hostile stimuli.The combat sequence isnt triggered by you getting stuck by the Ogre. Its triggered by the Ogre deciding to attack in the first place. As soon as combat starts [but before any actions are resolved] the combat sequence [initiative, surprise etc] starts. You resolve combat actions inside of combat.I have no idea how so many DMs dont understand this.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 6820018, member: 6788736"] If I was talking to an Ogre or an NPC and the DM said 'he attacks you' and then resolved it 'outside' of the combat sequence and initiative order, denying the player a chance to do anything about it, I would be pretty peeved. I mean, I'd roll with it and all, but unless there is a damn good reason for doing it, its not my cup of tea. Its just a massive deviation from the rules for no good reason other than DM whimsy. The switch from [narrative time] to [combat sequence] isnt noticible by the characters. Its how the game resolves hostile acts. You roll initiative to determine if actors in the combat can react in time to a hostile stimuli. The combat sequence isnt triggered by you getting stuck by the Ogre. Its triggered by the Ogre deciding to attack in the first place. As soon as combat starts [but before any actions are resolved] the combat sequence [initiative, surprise etc] starts. You resolve combat actions inside of combat. I have no idea how so many DMs dont understand this. [/QUOTE]

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