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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8683429" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I mean, yes, assuming you were capable of realizing that, yeah.</p><p></p><p>Re: devil's advocate, not quite.</p><p></p><p>I'm saying even if we ignore the maladaptive nature of getting "stuck in your ways", the reality is that if you live 700 years, you lived before capitalism, before mercantilism, etc. - your grandparents lived before single-entity faiths, your great-grandparents basically lived before currency was even a common/solid concept and so on.</p><p></p><p>So beings who lived that long wouldn't be "Boomer-y" (soz), or even like people from the 1800s, like [USER=6796468]@Steampunkette[/USER] seems to be suggesting, they'd be much more alien than that, more like the title suggests, they'd be against people in the 1800s would take for granted, like freedom of movement, or not being a serf. And their society and views would develop incredibly slowly, and they'd be smart enough to stamp down on anything that they saw as a threat - also they'd get really good at identifying threats like:</p><p></p><p>A) Technology</p><p>B) Religions that weren't theirs</p><p>C) Opposition to slavery/serfdom</p><p>D) Mercantilism</p><p>E) Egalitarianism</p><p></p><p>And they'd probably crack down on stuff which was a "threat signifier", even though not necessarily a threat, like, art which was in any way modern, dressing outside of the laws they'd set (because they would come up with laws eventually), and so on.</p><p></p><p>I'd also add though that one reason in humans people become "stuck in their ways" and resistant to change is biology. It's a major factor people don't like to acknowledge because it's uncomfortable and makes people think about mortality and accept that they don't have total control of their own minds. Brains decay, dementia sets in - often much earlier than we think. One of the first symptoms of a lot of forms of dementia is a loss of empathy, and an inability to adapt/change (in some cases to properly make new memories at all). How would that interact with long-lived races? Elves are usually portrayed as being at basically 100% until shortly before they die, mentally and sometimes physically, so presumably they wouldn't suffer from this - so would be less likely to get stuck in their ways.</p><p></p><p>I mean, one thing important to note is - not everyone gets stuck in their ways - my dad, who is 74, for example, never has. He's still learning and doing new things, still adopting new tech, still able to pick up new social and cultural ideas - moreso than many people in their 50s, hell than some people in their 30s or 40s. So assuming becoming stuck in a period is intrinsic to ageing is I think misguided. I suspect personality and brain-health have a lot to do with this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8683429, member: 18"] I mean, yes, assuming you were capable of realizing that, yeah. Re: devil's advocate, not quite. I'm saying even if we ignore the maladaptive nature of getting "stuck in your ways", the reality is that if you live 700 years, you lived before capitalism, before mercantilism, etc. - your grandparents lived before single-entity faiths, your great-grandparents basically lived before currency was even a common/solid concept and so on. So beings who lived that long wouldn't be "Boomer-y" (soz), or even like people from the 1800s, like [USER=6796468]@Steampunkette[/USER] seems to be suggesting, they'd be much more alien than that, more like the title suggests, they'd be against people in the 1800s would take for granted, like freedom of movement, or not being a serf. And their society and views would develop incredibly slowly, and they'd be smart enough to stamp down on anything that they saw as a threat - also they'd get really good at identifying threats like: A) Technology B) Religions that weren't theirs C) Opposition to slavery/serfdom D) Mercantilism E) Egalitarianism And they'd probably crack down on stuff which was a "threat signifier", even though not necessarily a threat, like, art which was in any way modern, dressing outside of the laws they'd set (because they would come up with laws eventually), and so on. I'd also add though that one reason in humans people become "stuck in their ways" and resistant to change is biology. It's a major factor people don't like to acknowledge because it's uncomfortable and makes people think about mortality and accept that they don't have total control of their own minds. Brains decay, dementia sets in - often much earlier than we think. One of the first symptoms of a lot of forms of dementia is a loss of empathy, and an inability to adapt/change (in some cases to properly make new memories at all). How would that interact with long-lived races? Elves are usually portrayed as being at basically 100% until shortly before they die, mentally and sometimes physically, so presumably they wouldn't suffer from this - so would be less likely to get stuck in their ways. I mean, one thing important to note is - not everyone gets stuck in their ways - my dad, who is 74, for example, never has. He's still learning and doing new things, still adopting new tech, still able to pick up new social and cultural ideas - moreso than many people in their 50s, hell than some people in their 30s or 40s. So assuming becoming stuck in a period is intrinsic to ageing is I think misguided. I suspect personality and brain-health have a lot to do with this. [/QUOTE]
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