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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9732445" data-attributes="member: 18">I mean, they do explain that at some length.She says her emotions are all muted, and they explain they're trying to simulate them in her software because she doesn't have an endocrine system or a nervous system or actual physical brain full of chemicals or the like, but might need to turn them up (let's hope they don't patch that with an over-the-air update because that could be bad lol).And Boy Kavalier explains that she has an incredibly powerful supercomputer for a brain. So she's probably able to think through problems a lot more and be a lot calmer about things than any normal child, because she's not going off half-cocked, which is pretty much the defining trait of being a child.Does it though? I don't think so.It's like it's such damn unnecessarily weird, self-conscious and silly movie. Alien, the defining thing about it, for me, is that it feels like it could happen. It's barely science-fiction in a sense. People act like people. Corporations are horrible like they are. Even the robot person behaves in a way you'd believe a corporate-programmed robot would act. The xenomorph itself is terrifying but ultimately it mostly behaves like a really scary and smart animal (not a bioweapon, not "the perfect being", not a demon, or any  of that nonsense). Everything is pretty straightforward. There's no religious nonsense. There are no grand speeches about the meaning of life and universe (or the lack thereof), the closest being the android being a twat if I recall right.Aliens is pretty much the same way. It feels like it could happen. Ripley is very brave and goes out of her way to save people, but she was like that before (she even saved a cat for god's sake!), and we all know there are people who take risks that big. There some very cool lines and discussions, much more memorable ones than Alien, sure, it's got more action to it as well (I mean, its position in 1986 rather than 1979 is part of that, kind of a different era of film-making), but again, people act like people. There are no grandiose speeches - the closest we get is probably "nuke the site from orbit" or Burke attempting to justify his actions. There's no religious blather. There's no "the meaning of life" stuff.Alien 3 totally breaks with all of that. It's absolute nonsense. Nothing is believable. Not a single character in the entire movie acts like a human. It's about as realistic as the totally insane The Name of The Rose movie (very different to the book), where every monk except Shermonk Holmes is like, an impossible Warhammer/Gormenghast-style deformed/demented gothic lunatic (the performances!!! amazing movie) or a super-twink, every peasant is literally filthy and bearable capable of speech, and so on. Just ludicrous grand guignol stuff. And Alien 3, despite having a lot of Very Serious British Actors in it is just same sort of absolute nonsense. And then we have religious blather and needless nonsensical clumsy Themes. No wonder Fincher has rejected it, it's college student who thinks he's a genius-type stuff. What a mess. Even the setting wholly unbelievable, and the xenomorphs are messed up and kinda unintentionally funny too.What I will say, and I don't think this is a good thing even slightly, is that I think Alien 3 is a bit closer to the direction that Scott had expressed as his idea for the future of Alien movies in various 1980s interviews, which was very much more of well... how to put this? It's what we got with Prometheus. He always wanted to do some grandiose nonsense with Alien, but I guess the grounded script and limited budget stopped him.Alien 3, I think accidentally, taps into that proto-Prometheus vein. As does Resurrection a bit, but I think that's Alien 3's influence and y'know, generalized Frenchiness.Operative word "your"!It's not "kill someone else's darlings" lol is it? That's a very, very, very different sentiment lol! Bloody hell!I don't respect it even slightly. I think it's a bit churlish and petty actually!I think they could have told the story of Alien 3 a lot better if they'd just not done that - and maybe not had Ripley in it either - just had a monastery full of lunatics trying to deal with this insane situation. I presume (I haven't checked) The Studio told Fincher to include Ripley and that this vandalism was in fact petty teenager rebellion directed at The Studio rather than anything else. Either way it's edgelord behaviour, and you don't gotta hand it to edgelords.</blockquote>

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