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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8228176" data-attributes="member: 18">Really? I'm not an expert on Starfinder but I glancing at it got the impression it was at least as wacky as Shadowrun and Shadowrun is definitely significantly further-out than Star Wars, metaphysically. To me, Star Wars is science fantasy, and like, shading towards Star Wars but still primarily sci-fi genre-wise you have stuff like Star Trek and Mass Effect (where stuff like psychic powers exists, but has some sort of faux-scientific explanation most of the time), then you have stuff like Traveller and The Expanse which isn't &quot;hard&quot; SF (given all the FTL and so on), but which is pretty much as hard as you're likely to see in most RPGs. YMMV of course.But anyway, I think it's off-brand science fantasy at best, where Alien and Cyberpunk are right towards the other end (Alien has what, FTL drives and artificial gravity? Cyberpunk has nothing entirely outside the realms of possibility that I can immediately think of), and both are doing great, so we have evidence that sci-fi-oriented games can do well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8228176, member: 18"] Really? I'm not an expert on Starfinder but I glancing at it got the impression it was at least as wacky as Shadowrun and Shadowrun is definitely significantly further-out than Star Wars, metaphysically. To me, Star Wars is science fantasy, and like, shading towards Star Wars but still primarily sci-fi genre-wise you have stuff like Star Trek and Mass Effect (where stuff like psychic powers exists, but has some sort of faux-scientific explanation most of the time), then you have stuff like Traveller and The Expanse which isn't "hard" SF (given all the FTL and so on), but which is pretty much as hard as you're likely to see in most RPGs. YMMV of course. But anyway, I think it's off-brand science fantasy at best, where Alien and Cyberpunk are right towards the other end (Alien has what, FTL drives and artificial gravity? Cyberpunk has nothing entirely outside the realms of possibility that I can immediately think of), and both are doing great, so we have evidence that sci-fi-oriented games can do well. [/QUOTE]

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