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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 9456485" data-attributes="member: 85555">I very much agree here. It is a character study, you have to spend time getting to know the circumstances Rocky is living in for the end to have any emotional weight. You really want to have to spend time in Rocky's world and with him, Adrian and Paulie to enjoy it. I like all the Rocky movies (some a lot less than others) but the original Rocky is a proper movie with a really good script and acted very sincerely. I liked Creed but felt the same way. It was very well done, the acting was all very good. But it didn't linger for me the way Rocky did. It might just come down to style I don't know. Rocky had a very gritty quality to it. Creed felt glossy. Rocky had significant character flaws that you overlooked because you understood him as a person (he was an enforcer for a local mafia guy if I remember correctly). I think with Creed, he had problems like Rocky had problems but something was missing. I do think though going with Apollo's son as the lead character was a smart idea. I enjoyed both Creed and Creed II (I kind of liked II better than I, if only because I thought they did something pretty impressive with the Ivan Drago character---even though the plot is essentially Rocky III) For me one of the most effective horror movies is Rosemary's Baby. It is also just a really good movie. That kind of creeping sense that something is wrong and the ambiguity it creates around the psychological horror of it, really required a slow pacing to work IMO. Or take the Exorcist. I mean that doesn't work if you aren't feeling like you are going through the slow and deliberate process she and her mother are going through as they try to eliminate medical causes before they ultimately settle on a supernatural explanation. IMO there is nothing more horrifying in life than being sick, being at the mercy of a cold medical institution and having test, after test. The exorcist uses slow pacing to perfectly capture that horror. Not saying every horror movie has to be that way. Lifeforce is a ton of fun and pretty fast paced, Evil Dead II was pretty fast paced and I loved that---also think for all its jokes, it is scarier than many other horror movies. Plenty of great 80s horror was fast paced and I loved that. But there is something about slower paced horror movies that sink into character and setting that I think is very valuable</blockquote>

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