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<blockquote data-quote="Squire James" data-source="post: 3751932" data-attributes="member: 548"><p>I'm going to assume he did all these things as a true pattern of behavior, and none of these are something he did once or twice and got blown out of proportion (boy, I've seen that before!). His "baseline" actions appear Lawful Good, so I'll start him out as "paladin pure" Lawful Good and issue "strikes" for Chaotic or Evil behavior. Three strikes and he's out of Lawful Good. Here we go (WARNING: lots of subjective thought ahead!):</p><p></p><p>Let's start with the women. This is chaotic behavior in nearly all cases, since Law would (usually) dictate that a man should marry and stick to one woman. If he fails to leave means of support it would be slightly evil if the omission was intentional, or "true neutral and unwise" if accidental. None of this is strong enough to pull an otherwise Lawful Good person out of the alignment in my opinion. I'd call it "one strike" toward Chaotic.</p><p></p><p>The torture is clearly the worst of the offenses, and most likely to threaten the Lawful Good alignment. A pattern of this behavior would foul up Paladin status, though Grey Guards are practically expected to act like this. I call it "two strikes" toward Evil. Not enough to move the alignment by itself, but any reinforcement will do the trick.</p><p></p><p>The limb-beating itself is "value neutral" in my opinion. Fundamentally, it doesn't matter if he's using a severed limb or a sword to beat someone. What matters is the results. If he is dealing capital punishment to someone who "needs killing", then I see nothing evil or chaotic about it. Now, if he's KILLING people who ought not to be killed, this could be as serious as a full alignment change toward Chaos and Evil. I don't sense this to be the case, so for purposes of this discussion I'd say it's "neutral angry" and let it go at that.</p><p></p><p>The sterilization issue is probably what will provide that "final push" to another alignment. In my opinion the only situation where this is Lawful Good behavior (or enough so that I wouldn't count any "strikes") is if the subjects were rapists. For most stupid or useless men, their gonads is all they have left! It's not QUITE as bad as killing them, but really close. I'd call it "two strikes" toward Evil, possibly three. His behavior is quite Lawful Evil here.</p><p></p><p>My final assessment is: "one strike" toward Chaotic and "four strikes" toward Evil. This would land him in Lawful Neutral territory with "one stike" in both Chaos and Evil still outstanding.</p><p></p><p>Any thoughts on my analysis?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Squire James, post: 3751932, member: 548"] I'm going to assume he did all these things as a true pattern of behavior, and none of these are something he did once or twice and got blown out of proportion (boy, I've seen that before!). His "baseline" actions appear Lawful Good, so I'll start him out as "paladin pure" Lawful Good and issue "strikes" for Chaotic or Evil behavior. Three strikes and he's out of Lawful Good. Here we go (WARNING: lots of subjective thought ahead!): Let's start with the women. This is chaotic behavior in nearly all cases, since Law would (usually) dictate that a man should marry and stick to one woman. If he fails to leave means of support it would be slightly evil if the omission was intentional, or "true neutral and unwise" if accidental. None of this is strong enough to pull an otherwise Lawful Good person out of the alignment in my opinion. I'd call it "one strike" toward Chaotic. The torture is clearly the worst of the offenses, and most likely to threaten the Lawful Good alignment. A pattern of this behavior would foul up Paladin status, though Grey Guards are practically expected to act like this. I call it "two strikes" toward Evil. Not enough to move the alignment by itself, but any reinforcement will do the trick. The limb-beating itself is "value neutral" in my opinion. Fundamentally, it doesn't matter if he's using a severed limb or a sword to beat someone. What matters is the results. If he is dealing capital punishment to someone who "needs killing", then I see nothing evil or chaotic about it. Now, if he's KILLING people who ought not to be killed, this could be as serious as a full alignment change toward Chaos and Evil. I don't sense this to be the case, so for purposes of this discussion I'd say it's "neutral angry" and let it go at that. The sterilization issue is probably what will provide that "final push" to another alignment. In my opinion the only situation where this is Lawful Good behavior (or enough so that I wouldn't count any "strikes") is if the subjects were rapists. For most stupid or useless men, their gonads is all they have left! It's not QUITE as bad as killing them, but really close. I'd call it "two strikes" toward Evil, possibly three. His behavior is quite Lawful Evil here. My final assessment is: "one strike" toward Chaotic and "four strikes" toward Evil. This would land him in Lawful Neutral territory with "one stike" in both Chaos and Evil still outstanding. Any thoughts on my analysis? [/QUOTE]
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