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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 3607613" data-attributes="member: 8835">I see where the OP is going with this.&nbsp; He's actually trying to lock in alignment determination to discrete, non-disputable characteristics, rather than fuzzy things known only to the player.Consider the differences:If alignment is determined by the private thoughts of the player, it is possible that a PC is evil, because the player thinks evil thoughts (presumably evil thoughts on the PC's behalf, not just evil thoughts in general because the player is a sociopath).If alignment is determined by the actions of the PC (big actions like burning things down, small actions like expressing regret at the action), then the DM can judge alignment solely on what he sees the PC do.&nbsp; This is important for spells that detect alignment, and or affect alignment (like Protection From Evil).If you want to bring intent into it, the DM can determine intent from the actions of the PC.&nbsp; It should be obvious as to why the PC burnt down the orphanage.&nbsp; If he did it to kill little children...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Janx, post: 3607613, member: 8835"] I see where the OP is going with this. He's actually trying to lock in alignment determination to discrete, non-disputable characteristics, rather than fuzzy things known only to the player. Consider the differences: If alignment is determined by the private thoughts of the player, it is possible that a PC is evil, because the player thinks evil thoughts (presumably evil thoughts on the PC's behalf, not just evil thoughts in general because the player is a sociopath). If alignment is determined by the actions of the PC (big actions like burning things down, small actions like expressing regret at the action), then the DM can judge alignment solely on what he sees the PC do. This is important for spells that detect alignment, and or affect alignment (like Protection From Evil). If you want to bring intent into it, the DM can determine intent from the actions of the PC. It should be obvious as to why the PC burnt down the orphanage. If he did it to kill little children... [/QUOTE]

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