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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 3608005" data-attributes="member: 9037">I disagree with this lying stealing cheating for the sake of lying stealing cheating is something that good people do not do. I&nbsp; buy that thief who steals to survive or a spy who lies to gain information can be good. Because of the intent the reason they are going what they do. I also don't think a person who is chaotic good lies and cheats and steals for no reason if they do I don't consider them good chaotic is not a get out of jail free card that allows you to be good yet do anything you want without regard of how it effects other people. Kender are not exactly thieves they find things there intent is not to to deprive someone else of an item and sell it for profit.&nbsp; And if the item is needed or commented on they will pull it out and glady give it back saying they found it and where holdong onto it for safe keeping. Like I said I judge intent. In order of the stick I judge Belkar to be evil he doesn't just defend himeslf he glorifies in making other creatures suffer that is not the same as someone who kills to defend himself or his people.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 3608005, member: 9037"] I disagree with this lying stealing cheating for the sake of lying stealing cheating is something that good people do not do. I buy that thief who steals to survive or a spy who lies to gain information can be good. Because of the intent the reason they are going what they do. I also don't think a person who is chaotic good lies and cheats and steals for no reason if they do I don't consider them good chaotic is not a get out of jail free card that allows you to be good yet do anything you want without regard of how it effects other people. Kender are not exactly thieves they find things there intent is not to to deprive someone else of an item and sell it for profit. And if the item is needed or commented on they will pull it out and glady give it back saying they found it and where holdong onto it for safe keeping. Like I said I judge intent. In order of the stick I judge Belkar to be evil he doesn't just defend himeslf he glorifies in making other creatures suffer that is not the same as someone who kills to defend himself or his people. [/QUOTE]

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