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<blockquote data-quote="Silvanos" data-source="post: 1438150" data-attributes="member: 9732">Nah.&nbsp; I already defined them for the discussion.&nbsp; Socrates did not leave much grey area in his dialouges!&nbsp; But I guess we also have to assume that most people have not read the authors I listed...&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />On Hitler...&nbsp; I can see your point.&nbsp; In my mind the person at the top of the food change, that creats laws, and expects his henchmen to follow them, is NE.&nbsp; His followers are LE.&nbsp; Or heck!&nbsp; They could be LN!William Wallace!&nbsp; Great Example.&nbsp; I would also say CG all the way.&nbsp; He shunned the &quot;offices&quot; given to him, and fought for the little guy.&nbsp; At least in the movie he did.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I believe Socrates wrote on the actions of the government, and it's reflection on the people.&nbsp; For the A-bomb discussion...&nbsp; I would think that the people of a nation, that stand by and allow a war of agression, are not innocents when it comes to said war of aggression.&nbsp; But that is just me!&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Silvanos, post: 1438150, member: 9732"] Nah. I already defined them for the discussion. Socrates did not leave much grey area in his dialouges! But I guess we also have to assume that most people have not read the authors I listed... :( On Hitler... I can see your point. In my mind the person at the top of the food change, that creats laws, and expects his henchmen to follow them, is NE. His followers are LE. Or heck! They could be LN! William Wallace! Great Example. I would also say CG all the way. He shunned the "offices" given to him, and fought for the little guy. At least in the movie he did. :) I believe Socrates wrote on the actions of the government, and it's reflection on the people. For the A-bomb discussion... I would think that the people of a nation, that stand by and allow a war of agression, are not innocents when it comes to said war of aggression. But that is just me! ;) [/QUOTE]

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