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Message: <blockquote data-quote="patch" data-source="post: 5957879" data-attributes="member: 6675249"><p>yes after opening the book and reading the spell i realized there was no save( i play wizards to the finer points to clerics elude me). and here begins my dilemma with how alignment is used and what counts as a good/bad act. in the CN description is makes them seem like ppl that are only out to finish there own end goals. so making a temp ally into a more suitable permanent one... Im pretty sure that is whats going to happen hence why im trying to stop it now and i want to have a fairly set up plan before i go  tromping off. i was looking into a bestow curse (knowing that they can be removed) to then use atonement  of his free will to repent for what he has done. so im not being argumentative i just dont get why it would effect my alignment, i could see a good align person having a prob, but even then if they were ridding the world of something evil. thats why i was looking for something like the hat where "here wear this we need to hid your face"(the cursed hat of disguise) ooo what happened now you don't want to kill babies anymore. *swings arm* ah bummer, o well lets go kill that bad guy. (that was intended to sound innocent)</p></blockquote><p></p>