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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ipissimus" data-source="post: 4059610" data-attributes="member: 41514">In return, I posit that torture is a neutral act in the same way, being coloured by the motivations behind it. In actuality, it is my belief that killing and torture is evil but occasionally necessary in certain extreme circumstances.Whether you consider yourself or your society good or not, it must be accepted that torture is part of it. When police grill a suspect, they're using torture to gain information. When society locks someone in prison, we're using torture as punishment. Now, while this torture may not be extreme, it is still necessary to save lives.Perhaps I see alignment as a little more fluid than most people, a guiding philosophy rather than a set of rules that dictate how a character should act. Good people can have perfectly good reasons for killing, torture, theft... I see the big difference between Good and Evil as being that a Good person will only ever indulge in evil acts when absolutely necessary where as an Evil person will indulge in such acts for fun.Will, I don't think having faith in goodness is stupid, but the world presents us with many situations that force us to be practical in order to uphold what we believe in. There's an old saying 'too heavenly minded to be of any Earthly use' that certainly applies.</blockquote>