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<blockquote data-quote="HeavenShallBurn" data-source="post: 4059874" data-attributes="member: 39593">Strangely enough this is one place I agree with Haakon.&nbsp; Torture doesn't work, no ifs ands or buts, it just doesn't.&nbsp; You're talking to a person with personal experience and a family that has been military since nation-states first raised professional armies.&nbsp; IT DOESN&quot;T WORK.&nbsp; The information you get is so unreliable it isn't worth bothering.&nbsp; They say whatever they think you want to hear, whatever they can say to make it stop for just a few breaths.&nbsp; You'll get the same result from a random pick up off the street as a captured enemy combatant.&nbsp; Because what they say is coming from their read of you, not themselves.&nbsp; Your own questioning provides the material they'll chop up and spit back out even if they're completely ignorant of what you're talking about.&nbsp; Beyond that use of torture is just ethically not right.&nbsp; Either dump them in a POW camp until things are done or kill them straight off, both are more ethical than torture.But on the overall alignment issue, I think the biggest problem is the wording.&nbsp; It doesn't really say anything about what the alignments are, leaving everyone to just kind of go off half-cocked about it.&nbsp; It would be far better to have some rough guidelines and maybe examples of what alignments some well known philosophical schools would be.&nbsp; That sort of thing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HeavenShallBurn, post: 4059874, member: 39593"] Strangely enough this is one place I agree with Haakon. Torture doesn't work, no ifs ands or buts, it just doesn't. You're talking to a person with personal experience and a family that has been military since nation-states first raised professional armies. IT DOESN"T WORK. The information you get is so unreliable it isn't worth bothering. They say whatever they think you want to hear, whatever they can say to make it stop for just a few breaths. You'll get the same result from a random pick up off the street as a captured enemy combatant. Because what they say is coming from their read of you, not themselves. Your own questioning provides the material they'll chop up and spit back out even if they're completely ignorant of what you're talking about. Beyond that use of torture is just ethically not right. Either dump them in a POW camp until things are done or kill them straight off, both are more ethical than torture. But on the overall alignment issue, I think the biggest problem is the wording. It doesn't really say anything about what the alignments are, leaving everyone to just kind of go off half-cocked about it. It would be far better to have some rough guidelines and maybe examples of what alignments some well known philosophical schools would be. That sort of thing. [/QUOTE]

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