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<blockquote data-quote="maddman75" data-source="post: 3633632" data-attributes="member: 2673">*Forge of Fury Spoilers in this thread*I'm running my group through FoF.&nbsp; They've cleared the top level, finally getting to King Ulfe the ogre.&nbsp; When they went in, they kept in a tight formation to protect the spellcasters.&nbsp; The priestess opened with a Hold Person on one of the orcs.&nbsp; They took down the other five and the fighter cut off Ulfe's head just as the spell ended.&nbsp; The lone orc looked at the heroes and fell to his knees.I'm looking at it like this - orcs (in this setting anyway) respect only one thing: strength.&nbsp; Ulfe was the most powerful creature around, and thus he led the tribe.&nbsp; These strangers come in, storm their impenatrable fortress.&nbsp; They hold him with their magics and slay mighty Ulfe.&nbsp; The orc sees that the PCs are much stronger than him, stronger even than Ulfe.&nbsp; So he pledges his service to the mighty warriors.&nbsp; They accept, rather tickled to have their own orc.I've given them a couple of hints that this won't be simple.&nbsp; Throk is completely loyal - so long as the PCs are the big kids on the block.&nbsp; When they asked if he would pledge himself to serve Pelor, he responded that if the warriors who slew mighty Ulfe served Pelor, then so would he.&nbsp; The streets will run with the blood of the enemies of Pelor!&nbsp; When they went to town they bid him wait outside.&nbsp; He responded &quot;Shall I kill any humans who attempt to escape?&quot; So what other ways can this turn out interesting?&nbsp; Keep in mind two things - Throk is completely loyal for now, and orcs are not redeemable.&nbsp; This isn't a grey area, they are spawn of demons and hate as men breathe.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="maddman75, post: 3633632, member: 2673"] *Forge of Fury Spoilers in this thread* I'm running my group through FoF. They've cleared the top level, finally getting to King Ulfe the ogre. When they went in, they kept in a tight formation to protect the spellcasters. The priestess opened with a Hold Person on one of the orcs. They took down the other five and the fighter cut off Ulfe's head just as the spell ended. The lone orc looked at the heroes and fell to his knees. I'm looking at it like this - orcs (in this setting anyway) respect only one thing: strength. Ulfe was the most powerful creature around, and thus he led the tribe. These strangers come in, storm their impenatrable fortress. They hold him with their magics and slay mighty Ulfe. The orc sees that the PCs are much stronger than him, stronger even than Ulfe. So he pledges his service to the mighty warriors. They accept, rather tickled to have their own orc. I've given them a couple of hints that this won't be simple. Throk is completely loyal - so long as the PCs are the big kids on the block. When they asked if he would pledge himself to serve Pelor, he responded that if the warriors who slew mighty Ulfe served Pelor, then so would he. The streets will run with the blood of the enemies of Pelor! When they went to town they bid him wait outside. He responded "Shall I kill any humans who attempt to escape?" So what other ways can this turn out interesting? Keep in mind two things - Throk is completely loyal for now, and orcs are not redeemable. This isn't a grey area, they are spawn of demons and hate as men breathe. [/QUOTE]

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