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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3291680" data-attributes="member: 4937">Oh, sure that's possible.  But, its entirely possible that it is not.  So going either way there doesn't get us much.??? I don't even think it is an alignment shift, much less a good example of one.  A better example of an alignment shift in the movies - and there are alot of good fall and redemption stories out there, its one of the most common themes in literature - is 'An Officer and a Gentlemen'.  But see also 'Sgt. York', 'Schindler's List', and I could probably go on and on if I sat and thought about it.The problem with Han making an alignment shift is we don't really see him doing anything bad to begin with.  He has a change of heart, but he does so because the people around him appeal to his underlying since of justice and goodness.  I don't consider lifting someone out of a temporary bout of cynacism to be a full alignment change.   Where I Han's DM, I'd expect CG on his character sheet and would be seeing a hero being slowly beaten down by the world.  Han's definately at a low point.  He took the work from Jabba, which was evil, and which he shouldn't have done.  But one mistake doesn't make for an alignment change.  He's trying to recover from the consequences of that mistake and his desparation is making him forget who he is - that outraged young man who rescued a Wookie from slavery because he couldn't stand by and see injustice done.  But he's not yet fallen.  He still cares, however much he's trying not to.There is a very strong indication that Chewie's alignment is Lawful Good - that Chewie's friendship with Han begins with the repayment of a life debt that Chewie's moral code requires of him.  But clearly Chewie doesn't see Han as a casual murderer and thief or anything else which might muddle his goodness, because Chewie's friendship with Han is real and that's not something a honor code can require of you.  More than that, I would expect in a LG honor code thier to be a clause which cancels the debt if the person you are indebted to does something truly dishonorable.  If Han's alignment is as far from Chewie's as CN, I wouldn't expect the friendship to be more strained than it is.  It really doesn't take that much prompting from Chewie and Luke to get Han to listen to his heart and join the rebellion.  I don't see an alignment change here.</blockquote>

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