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<blockquote data-quote="Man in the Funny Hat" data-source="post: 3296028" data-attributes="member: 32740"><p>Not just owes a debt - he owes a LARGE debt. Enough to get whacked over - or close to it. Greedo was overstepping his authority when he intended to kill Han but his charter with Ben and Luke is his last chance. We just don't know enough about this entire "Imperial Cruiser" incident, the debt, or ANYTHING about Hans past beyond this. I was suggesting that it's possible that Han has for one reason or another failed at a succession of smuggling operations for Jabba. Han presents himself as a terrific smuggler. In the extended scenes Jabba says he's "the best". But IF that's really true and not just blowing smoke then why whack Han over ONE failure? Over a SINGLE debt, even if it's a large one? My understanding here is that Han is definitely on the outs with Jabba because he's just not the badass criminal and smuggler he says he is. He's a good pilot with a good ship but he's NOT the crook he wants people to think he is. That's what I mean when I say he's not very good at it.</p><p>But again - he's now running with a LARGE, well-organized rebellion. He could "disappear" into that organization if he wanted to. He doesn't have to show his face anywhere that it can be recognized and shot at. He also has access to GOBS of military hardware. He could "borrow" some of it for a while, or because they think so much of him he could even ask for it and they might even give it to him - then KILL Jabba, the big, disgusting vile crime boss, and be seen as doing the universe a favor, while also scratching his debts.</p><p></p><p>Instead he does the "honorable" thing, stands up to his obligations - even those incurred working as a crook for a bigger crook - and faces the music. This is hardly Neutral behavior.</p><p></p><p>And, although he TALKS like he wants to be seen as a master criminal, he IS facing down Imperial forces, not local law enforcement (as he notes to Ben and Luke in the cantina) - at least for that last operation that went bad. He brags about outrunning Imperial starships. This suggests to me that he's less a criminal already than he is someone <em>operating against the Empire</em>. But again, we just don't know enough to read too much into it one way or another.</p><p>Not at the end of Episode IV - at the end of Episode VI. I don't see ANY chaotic and neutral behavior in ESB and RotJ, I see lawful and good behavior. The last really neutral thing he does COULD be leaving the rebellion temporarily for his own "selfish" reasons of taking care of this price on his head. Depends on how you really want to interpret that. But it doesn't much matter. He's still moving in a LG direction and by the end of the series I don't see him doing ANYTHING that suggests he's anything but LG - the direction he started moving at the end of ANH.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Man in the Funny Hat, post: 3296028, member: 32740"] Not just owes a debt - he owes a LARGE debt. Enough to get whacked over - or close to it. Greedo was overstepping his authority when he intended to kill Han but his charter with Ben and Luke is his last chance. We just don't know enough about this entire "Imperial Cruiser" incident, the debt, or ANYTHING about Hans past beyond this. I was suggesting that it's possible that Han has for one reason or another failed at a succession of smuggling operations for Jabba. Han presents himself as a terrific smuggler. In the extended scenes Jabba says he's "the best". But IF that's really true and not just blowing smoke then why whack Han over ONE failure? Over a SINGLE debt, even if it's a large one? My understanding here is that Han is definitely on the outs with Jabba because he's just not the badass criminal and smuggler he says he is. He's a good pilot with a good ship but he's NOT the crook he wants people to think he is. That's what I mean when I say he's not very good at it. But again - he's now running with a LARGE, well-organized rebellion. He could "disappear" into that organization if he wanted to. He doesn't have to show his face anywhere that it can be recognized and shot at. He also has access to GOBS of military hardware. He could "borrow" some of it for a while, or because they think so much of him he could even ask for it and they might even give it to him - then KILL Jabba, the big, disgusting vile crime boss, and be seen as doing the universe a favor, while also scratching his debts. Instead he does the "honorable" thing, stands up to his obligations - even those incurred working as a crook for a bigger crook - and faces the music. This is hardly Neutral behavior. And, although he TALKS like he wants to be seen as a master criminal, he IS facing down Imperial forces, not local law enforcement (as he notes to Ben and Luke in the cantina) - at least for that last operation that went bad. He brags about outrunning Imperial starships. This suggests to me that he's less a criminal already than he is someone [I]operating against the Empire[/I]. But again, we just don't know enough to read too much into it one way or another. Not at the end of Episode IV - at the end of Episode VI. I don't see ANY chaotic and neutral behavior in ESB and RotJ, I see lawful and good behavior. The last really neutral thing he does COULD be leaving the rebellion temporarily for his own "selfish" reasons of taking care of this price on his head. Depends on how you really want to interpret that. But it doesn't much matter. He's still moving in a LG direction and by the end of the series I don't see him doing ANYTHING that suggests he's anything but LG - the direction he started moving at the end of ANH. [/QUOTE]
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