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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8006101" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>The Marvel series on Netflix steered him towards a much more LN bent, blaming his LE stuff (the murders and torture etc) on a combination of PTSD/ a Brain injury that he basically cant control (absolving him of his darker actions).</p><p></p><p>I really hated the way they went about giving him an 'out' for his evil.</p><p></p><p>I personally feel it would have been much more interesting exploring his fanaticism, evil, preparedness for and justifications of mass murder in in light of similar acts and justifications we see happening on an all too familiar basis (mass shootings, fanaticism, radicalisation etc).</p><p></p><p>I guess the problem there is; how do you explore the justifications of a protagonist who engages in mass murder and torture without condoning his actions, and also without condemning them to the point we disengage from that protagonist?</p><p></p><p>Dexter had similar issues.</p><p></p><p>You can compare two different men, both of whom dress in black, keep themselves at peak physical condition, and use terror, intimidation and the darkness to fight a fanatical war on crime, motivated by the murder of their own families before their eyes (the Batman, and the Punisher).</p><p></p><p>Both men have identical goals, and are similar in many ways, but use <strong>very </strong>different methods. The Batman actively avoids torture and killing (but isnt above roughing the odd villain up) from his repertoire, making him Good aligned. The Punisher embraces murder and torture (to extreme ends) making him Evil aligned.</p><p></p><p>Both have similar backstories, motivations, and end goals. But the way they approach the problem is radically different.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8006101, member: 6788736"] The Marvel series on Netflix steered him towards a much more LN bent, blaming his LE stuff (the murders and torture etc) on a combination of PTSD/ a Brain injury that he basically cant control (absolving him of his darker actions). I really hated the way they went about giving him an 'out' for his evil. I personally feel it would have been much more interesting exploring his fanaticism, evil, preparedness for and justifications of mass murder in in light of similar acts and justifications we see happening on an all too familiar basis (mass shootings, fanaticism, radicalisation etc). I guess the problem there is; how do you explore the justifications of a protagonist who engages in mass murder and torture without condoning his actions, and also without condemning them to the point we disengage from that protagonist? Dexter had similar issues. You can compare two different men, both of whom dress in black, keep themselves at peak physical condition, and use terror, intimidation and the darkness to fight a fanatical war on crime, motivated by the murder of their own families before their eyes (the Batman, and the Punisher). Both men have identical goals, and are similar in many ways, but use [B]very [/B]different methods. The Batman actively avoids torture and killing (but isnt above roughing the odd villain up) from his repertoire, making him Good aligned. The Punisher embraces murder and torture (to extreme ends) making him Evil aligned. Both have similar backstories, motivations, and end goals. But the way they approach the problem is radically different. [/QUOTE]
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