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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8006648" data-attributes="member: 6788736">My personal bugbear with assinging alignment to fictional character is with Darth Vader/ Anakin Skywalker.There is broad consensus that as a Jedi Anakin was CG (no respect for authority, impulsive and reckless, but with a benevolent moral compass, and genuine altruism).It's when we get to Vader that people start assigning LE to him, which I wholly disagree with. For mine, Vader is textbook CE.The only 'Lawful' thing about Vader is he serves the Emperor (and the Empire) and it is well established canonically (and in Legends) that he only does so largely out of fear. And of course, a Chaotic villain can work for an organisation in any event (even a Lawful one). A LE Wizard can have an entire army of CE Orcs working for him, but he will need to use fear and intimation to keep them in line (which is precisely how Vader is largely kept in line).Vader is reckless, impulsive and unpredictable. He does not keep his word. He actively betrayed or attempted to betray Leia, Lando Calrissian and the Emperor. He literally exists outside the law, and acts however his fear, anger and rage direct him to (subject to the bidding of the Emperor). A meeting with Vader is as likely to result in your death as it will any other outcome, and a perceived failure on your part (or insulting his religion or performance) will also lead to the same outcome. He follows no code other than the Sith code (which itself is a CE code best summarised as 'LEEEEROY JENKINS!').Vader is in no way 'Lawful'. He has no sense of honour. His word means nothing. He acts according to his baser emotions,  subject only to the will of the Emperor, whom he actively attempts to betray in EP V (seeking to convince Luke to join him and destroy the Emperor, as all good Sith do) before finally pegging him down a bottomless shaft in EP VI.</blockquote>

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