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<blockquote data-quote="Malic" data-source="post: 2154034" data-attributes="member: 23799"><p>Hi Amal</p><p></p><p>No, the fact that he breaks 'laws' is not the point to me at all. I thought I'd better mention it though because in other alignment threads, respect for society's laws has been pointed out as important to lawful behaviour. I think we can both agree that the police corruption makes that less important in this case.</p><p></p><p>I just don't think that you have to be lawful to work your way along a trail of bad guys, driven by revenge. This is not a complicated plan. Also, the fact that he does not seem to believe that he lives up to what he thinks is right, but does it anyway, argues for chaotic. Maybe he once had a code, but he doesn't follow it. Not to mention refusal to get medical treatment, emotional swings, alcohol abuse.</p><p></p><p>The actions you have suggested as chaotic mostly seem to assume that he is not really angry about a specific thing. Like either a chaotic person can't care about anything for 5 minutes at a time, or they can't connect the specific people who've wronged them to their desire for revenge. I just don't believe that.</p><p></p><p>"Someone/something important to me has been destroyed. I will find everyone responsible and kill them." Doesn't that sound like typical barbarian behaviour?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Fusangite - Yes. But at least it gets you thinking. What does my character believe? What box are they closest to? What issues would drive them out of that box?</p><p></p><p>edit. You are right. This thread really does underline how different people's understanding of the system is. I had always thought that assumed context was behind many of the different interpretations in previous threads. Now I see that something as apparantly simple as law and chaos - not on the border, but squarely in each camp - can be different to different people, when everyone has all the same context information. I really can't see anything lawful about this case at all, but plenty of people on the thread think it is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Malic, post: 2154034, member: 23799"] Hi Amal No, the fact that he breaks 'laws' is not the point to me at all. I thought I'd better mention it though because in other alignment threads, respect for society's laws has been pointed out as important to lawful behaviour. I think we can both agree that the police corruption makes that less important in this case. I just don't think that you have to be lawful to work your way along a trail of bad guys, driven by revenge. This is not a complicated plan. Also, the fact that he does not seem to believe that he lives up to what he thinks is right, but does it anyway, argues for chaotic. Maybe he once had a code, but he doesn't follow it. Not to mention refusal to get medical treatment, emotional swings, alcohol abuse. The actions you have suggested as chaotic mostly seem to assume that he is not really angry about a specific thing. Like either a chaotic person can't care about anything for 5 minutes at a time, or they can't connect the specific people who've wronged them to their desire for revenge. I just don't believe that. "Someone/something important to me has been destroyed. I will find everyone responsible and kill them." Doesn't that sound like typical barbarian behaviour? Fusangite - Yes. But at least it gets you thinking. What does my character believe? What box are they closest to? What issues would drive them out of that box? edit. You are right. This thread really does underline how different people's understanding of the system is. I had always thought that assumed context was behind many of the different interpretations in previous threads. Now I see that something as apparantly simple as law and chaos - not on the border, but squarely in each camp - can be different to different people, when everyone has all the same context information. I really can't see anything lawful about this case at all, but plenty of people on the thread think it is. [/QUOTE]
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