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Alignment - just how evil is hiring an assassin?
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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 431532" data-attributes="member: 6533"><p><strong>Subcontracting</strong></p><p></p><p>My party just finished a mission where we hired to take out a commanding general/politician on the opposing side. As we were making our way back to the front line we killed the tactical general as well.</p><p></p><p>Snuck in both times, gave no warning, and didn't really give anyone a chance to surrender. Had to take heads to prove our mission was accomplished. All in the name of Neverwinter and the North.</p><p></p><p>I'm not commenting on my GM here, fantasy heroes have been pulling similar stunts since time immemorial, but as far as I can tell hiring an assassin would have been sub-contracting. The moral equivalent of paying someone else to go in and do your job for you.</p><p></p><p>Later we ended up being 'hosted' by a group of Malar worshippers who infected one of our members with lycanthropy and attempted to infect others. They forced us to take them on a mission with us so they could kill orcs who had violated their forest. So evil and good fought together in this one battle despite how shabbily they had treated us and were likely to treat those around them.</p><p></p><p>Long story short our two nature characters really wanted to kill them but the GM had that 'alignment' frown on and we let them go. After which they basically promised to kill us next time they saw us. In retrospect I can see some of his argument, we are basically professional/high amateur soldiers of one sort or another, and not allowing enemies who had fought beside you to withdraw would probably have been pretty nasty. </p><p></p><p>It depends on what you're asking him to do, but I don't think hiring an assassin is an innately evil act in such a world. Most fantasy settings are places where death is a 'professional' act. And as long as the larger 'professional' goal was good, then means are fairly value neutral.</p><p></p><p>So hiring an assassin to help you take out the Illithid Khan might even be good, but trying to stiff that assassin afterwards is certainly bad. Now capturing him and instantly turning him over to the authorities with his tongue ripped out and his hands stubbed so he couldn't implicate your state's secrets would be lawful neutral.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Strangemonkey, post: 431532, member: 6533"] [b]Subcontracting[/b] My party just finished a mission where we hired to take out a commanding general/politician on the opposing side. As we were making our way back to the front line we killed the tactical general as well. Snuck in both times, gave no warning, and didn't really give anyone a chance to surrender. Had to take heads to prove our mission was accomplished. All in the name of Neverwinter and the North. I'm not commenting on my GM here, fantasy heroes have been pulling similar stunts since time immemorial, but as far as I can tell hiring an assassin would have been sub-contracting. The moral equivalent of paying someone else to go in and do your job for you. Later we ended up being 'hosted' by a group of Malar worshippers who infected one of our members with lycanthropy and attempted to infect others. They forced us to take them on a mission with us so they could kill orcs who had violated their forest. So evil and good fought together in this one battle despite how shabbily they had treated us and were likely to treat those around them. Long story short our two nature characters really wanted to kill them but the GM had that 'alignment' frown on and we let them go. After which they basically promised to kill us next time they saw us. In retrospect I can see some of his argument, we are basically professional/high amateur soldiers of one sort or another, and not allowing enemies who had fought beside you to withdraw would probably have been pretty nasty. It depends on what you're asking him to do, but I don't think hiring an assassin is an innately evil act in such a world. Most fantasy settings are places where death is a 'professional' act. And as long as the larger 'professional' goal was good, then means are fairly value neutral. So hiring an assassin to help you take out the Illithid Khan might even be good, but trying to stiff that assassin afterwards is certainly bad. Now capturing him and instantly turning him over to the authorities with his tongue ripped out and his hands stubbed so he couldn't implicate your state's secrets would be lawful neutral. [/QUOTE]
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