Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3291945" data-attributes="member: 4937">I can't speak for Hussar, but in my reading of his posts, he went a bit farther in the direction of 'intentions don't matter' than I'm comfortable with, but then thought about the consequences of that for a while and back peddled a little bit.&nbsp; But that's just my reading, and unfortunately he's not here to answer for himself.Even so, even if I accepted that intentions don't matter at all - which I don't - it wouldn't follow that individuals would have no control over the morality of thier actions.&nbsp; To give just one example, for lawful characters in particular that makes no kind of sense.&nbsp; For a true lawful minded philosophy, simply follow the instructions you've been provided to do good.&nbsp; That's how you control your morality.&nbsp; What you intend by that or what motivates you to do it is irrelevant (fear, apathy, devotion are all the same - what matters is obedience).&nbsp; That you understand why you are doing it is irrelevant.&nbsp; You did your assigned part, hense you acted 'rightly'.&nbsp; Full stop.&nbsp; If you aren't following the instructions, you are doing wrong.&nbsp; Full stop.&nbsp; If you screwed up and did something wrong, follow the instructions for repairing a screw up.&nbsp; Repeat until you are a paragon of Lawful X or die trying.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 3291945, member: 4937"] I can't speak for Hussar, but in my reading of his posts, he went a bit farther in the direction of 'intentions don't matter' than I'm comfortable with, but then thought about the consequences of that for a while and back peddled a little bit. But that's just my reading, and unfortunately he's not here to answer for himself. Even so, even if I accepted that intentions don't matter at all - which I don't - it wouldn't follow that individuals would have no control over the morality of thier actions. To give just one example, for lawful characters in particular that makes no kind of sense. For a true lawful minded philosophy, simply follow the instructions you've been provided to do good. That's how you control your morality. What you intend by that or what motivates you to do it is irrelevant (fear, apathy, devotion are all the same - what matters is obedience). That you understand why you are doing it is irrelevant. You did your assigned part, hense you acted 'rightly'. Full stop. If you aren't following the instructions, you are doing wrong. Full stop. If you screwed up and did something wrong, follow the instructions for repairing a screw up. Repeat until you are a paragon of Lawful X or die trying. [/QUOTE]

Verification