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<blockquote data-quote="Amitiel" data-source="post: 3294222" data-attributes="member: 49039"><p>Myths that bug me:</p><p>Good means you have to be nice to everyone.</p><p>Good takes prisoners</p><p>Good means you have to care about everyone you meet.</p><p>Good means giving your last copper to a begger. </p><p></p><p>Neutral means you don't care about anything.</p><p>Neutral means you don't have to make moral choices.</p><p>Neutral means apathy.</p><p>Neutral is selfish.</p><p></p><p>Evil means being a jerk.</p><p>Evil means being stupid.</p><p>Evil means you can't be the hero.</p><p>Evil means you can't be nice to people</p><p>Evil means you can't have friends</p><p>Evil means your untrustworthy</p><p></p><p>This all stems from a lack of understanding about what makes good or evil. Its entirly possible to be an 'evil' hero or a 'good' villian. </p><p></p><p>How you may ask?</p><p></p><p>Evil heroes: What makes a hero, great deeds that help people. The only differance between the good hero and the evil hero is not the ends but the means. The good hero slays the dragon to protect the innocent, the evil hero may simply bribe the dragon to move to a differant kingdom and kill the innocents there (and failing that poison his coffee). </p><p></p><p>The villian holds a child over the acid pit with the 'Stop or I'll drop her.' speech. The good hero pauses, the evil one shoots the child and says 'Now what skippy.'.</p><p></p><p>One of the games I ran last year had evil characters. </p><p></p><p>Colleen was a sharakim (RoD an orc subrace) and a necromancer, she wanted immortality. She was also vain about her looks so wanted 'eternally pretty' immortality. When the party ran afoul of a Deck of Many Things. Colleen got hit with Balance card turning her evil. She got slightly more dark, and more willing to use undead minions. But otherwise she stayed the same. She founded a town and protected it. She eventually got her immortallity (via a necromantic construct body). But she was attacked at every turn by the forces of 'good'. Not because anything she did was evil in the end, but rather her means to get there was on the dark side. </p><p></p><p>Her town, attacked by 3 adventuring parties, 1 dwarven 'army of light', and a lone paladin/pious templar of Corellon. The 1st adventuring party came to *ahem* 'rid the town of her evil', the town was less than pleased with this idea and chased them out of town. The second party was there to solve the towns 'undead problem', since the skeletons were being used as cheap labor on the farms and were from a long abandoned graveyard the townsfolk were also less than pleased. The third came to 'kill the evil necromancer and rid the town of evil' Colleen cast Horrid wiliting on them and let the town guard (a group of well paid trolls) pummenl them into submission. The 'army of light' was there to rid the town of Orcs, Trolls, and other evil beings. Unfortunatly the Orcs, Trolls, and Sharakim they came to wipeout were the towns only inhabitants (they along with Colleen's undead built the town). They were soundly defeated by the rather nasty necromantic defenses, and well armed citizenry. The last was a personal villian for Colleen. </p><p></p><p>Yes, that's right, a paladin as the villian. As a pal/PT of Corellon he was sworn to destroy orcs. A town full of them sent him on a quest to kill them all(the statue of gruumash in the town didn't help). He took personal offense to Colleens very existance and one detect evil later targeted her as 'a source of evil' (the enevitable who showed up because of her change to a construct form convinsed him he was right.) when they took him down Colleens husband (a wartroll) had long words with him about evil not always meaning bad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amitiel, post: 3294222, member: 49039"] Myths that bug me: Good means you have to be nice to everyone. Good takes prisoners Good means you have to care about everyone you meet. Good means giving your last copper to a begger. Neutral means you don't care about anything. Neutral means you don't have to make moral choices. Neutral means apathy. Neutral is selfish. Evil means being a jerk. Evil means being stupid. Evil means you can't be the hero. Evil means you can't be nice to people Evil means you can't have friends Evil means your untrustworthy This all stems from a lack of understanding about what makes good or evil. Its entirly possible to be an 'evil' hero or a 'good' villian. How you may ask? Evil heroes: What makes a hero, great deeds that help people. The only differance between the good hero and the evil hero is not the ends but the means. The good hero slays the dragon to protect the innocent, the evil hero may simply bribe the dragon to move to a differant kingdom and kill the innocents there (and failing that poison his coffee). The villian holds a child over the acid pit with the 'Stop or I'll drop her.' speech. The good hero pauses, the evil one shoots the child and says 'Now what skippy.'. One of the games I ran last year had evil characters. Colleen was a sharakim (RoD an orc subrace) and a necromancer, she wanted immortality. She was also vain about her looks so wanted 'eternally pretty' immortality. When the party ran afoul of a Deck of Many Things. Colleen got hit with Balance card turning her evil. She got slightly more dark, and more willing to use undead minions. But otherwise she stayed the same. She founded a town and protected it. She eventually got her immortallity (via a necromantic construct body). But she was attacked at every turn by the forces of 'good'. Not because anything she did was evil in the end, but rather her means to get there was on the dark side. Her town, attacked by 3 adventuring parties, 1 dwarven 'army of light', and a lone paladin/pious templar of Corellon. The 1st adventuring party came to *ahem* 'rid the town of her evil', the town was less than pleased with this idea and chased them out of town. The second party was there to solve the towns 'undead problem', since the skeletons were being used as cheap labor on the farms and were from a long abandoned graveyard the townsfolk were also less than pleased. The third came to 'kill the evil necromancer and rid the town of evil' Colleen cast Horrid wiliting on them and let the town guard (a group of well paid trolls) pummenl them into submission. The 'army of light' was there to rid the town of Orcs, Trolls, and other evil beings. Unfortunatly the Orcs, Trolls, and Sharakim they came to wipeout were the towns only inhabitants (they along with Colleen's undead built the town). They were soundly defeated by the rather nasty necromantic defenses, and well armed citizenry. The last was a personal villian for Colleen. Yes, that's right, a paladin as the villian. As a pal/PT of Corellon he was sworn to destroy orcs. A town full of them sent him on a quest to kill them all(the statue of gruumash in the town didn't help). He took personal offense to Colleens very existance and one detect evil later targeted her as 'a source of evil' (the enevitable who showed up because of her change to a construct form convinsed him he was right.) when they took him down Colleens husband (a wartroll) had long words with him about evil not always meaning bad. [/QUOTE]
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