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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3299509" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>The act of hiring someone to kill someone else is commonly agreed to be evil? That would make pretty much every patron of every adventuring group evil then. After all, "Go off and deal with those orcs" is a pretty stock adventure.</p><p></p><p>None of these acts, in and of themselves are evil. Granted, the ACTORS likely are. Like I said, I'm not concerning myself here with the alignment of the characters, only the actions. Take the weapons selling for example because its come up a few times here.</p><p></p><p>Any weaponsmith knows, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that at the very least, one of the weapons he makes will be used for an evil act. To think anything else is naive. Now, knowing that someone, at some time will use his weapons to commit evil, is the weaponsmith guilty of evil acts every time he sells a weapon? </p><p></p><p>I brought this up before with the two knights. At what point does selling that magic weapon become evil? When the weapon is sold? When the weapon is used to kill the king? But, the weapon seller didn't actually kill anyone. His part of the action was over long before. </p><p></p><p>As I said, narrowing focus, or unnecessarily widening it, doesn't work. To determine the alignment of an action, look only at the action and the immediete results of that action. The weapon seller sells the sword to the evil dude. Evil dude then puts his plan into action. Then evil is commited by the evil dude with the weapon that the seller sold him. Has the weapon seller committed an evil act? I don't think so. Alignment cannot be determined by the actions of others.</p><p></p><p>Conversely, if the weapon seller sells the weapon to the exact same person who then kills a vampire with it, does that make it a good act? How can the actions of the weapon seller be judged by someone else's actions? The only immediate result of selling a weapon is an exchange of money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3299509, member: 22779"] The act of hiring someone to kill someone else is commonly agreed to be evil? That would make pretty much every patron of every adventuring group evil then. After all, "Go off and deal with those orcs" is a pretty stock adventure. None of these acts, in and of themselves are evil. Granted, the ACTORS likely are. Like I said, I'm not concerning myself here with the alignment of the characters, only the actions. Take the weapons selling for example because its come up a few times here. Any weaponsmith knows, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that at the very least, one of the weapons he makes will be used for an evil act. To think anything else is naive. Now, knowing that someone, at some time will use his weapons to commit evil, is the weaponsmith guilty of evil acts every time he sells a weapon? I brought this up before with the two knights. At what point does selling that magic weapon become evil? When the weapon is sold? When the weapon is used to kill the king? But, the weapon seller didn't actually kill anyone. His part of the action was over long before. As I said, narrowing focus, or unnecessarily widening it, doesn't work. To determine the alignment of an action, look only at the action and the immediete results of that action. The weapon seller sells the sword to the evil dude. Evil dude then puts his plan into action. Then evil is commited by the evil dude with the weapon that the seller sold him. Has the weapon seller committed an evil act? I don't think so. Alignment cannot be determined by the actions of others. Conversely, if the weapon seller sells the weapon to the exact same person who then kills a vampire with it, does that make it a good act? How can the actions of the weapon seller be judged by someone else's actions? The only immediate result of selling a weapon is an exchange of money. [/QUOTE]
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