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<blockquote data-quote="Nai_Calus" data-source="post: 5009463" data-attributes="member: 79670">Cool, but work on not putting words in other people's mouths. I attribute the re-using of AD&amp;D alignment in 3e more to laziness than a lack of durr. When they did un-lazy to make their own alignment system... We got 4e's offensive pile of useless. If they wanted to change it they should have stripped out the Law-Chaos axis entirely, not leave it with this stupid 'People who obey laws are goody good good best of good!' and 'only baby rapers are chaotic teehee' that they have going now.I like 4e, but the alignment system makes me facepalm so hardcore. (And is still present in stupid ways, like Paladin and Invoker alignment requirements. Why *can't* I, should I choose to, be a Good Paladin of an unaligned god? I don't get my powers from him anyway because 4e makes divine classes lame, so what's stopping me from being Good at character creation? If I change later, I don't fall, apparently, and the guys who trained me and invested me with my power through whatever nebulous mechanic I got it through don't have Detect Good spells to use on me to make sure I'm properly ambivalent, so seriously, what. Invoker kind of makes sense, but Paladin is just 'huh'. I can be a CE cleric of Bahamut, but I can't be a Good Paladin of Corellon? Sense, it is not made. If I help too many people, do Avengers come after me for being too good? Does my god even really give a rat's behind? I mean, what.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nai_Calus, post: 5009463, member: 79670"] Cool, but work on not putting words in other people's mouths. I attribute the re-using of AD&D alignment in 3e more to laziness than a lack of durr. When they did un-lazy to make their own alignment system... We got 4e's offensive pile of useless. If they wanted to change it they should have stripped out the Law-Chaos axis entirely, not leave it with this stupid 'People who obey laws are goody good good best of good!' and 'only baby rapers are chaotic teehee' that they have going now. I like 4e, but the alignment system makes me facepalm so hardcore. (And is still present in stupid ways, like Paladin and Invoker alignment requirements. Why *can't* I, should I choose to, be a Good Paladin of an unaligned god? I don't get my powers from him anyway because 4e makes divine classes lame, so what's stopping me from being Good at character creation? If I change later, I don't fall, apparently, and the guys who trained me and invested me with my power through whatever nebulous mechanic I got it through don't have Detect Good spells to use on me to make sure I'm properly ambivalent, so seriously, what. Invoker kind of makes sense, but Paladin is just 'huh'. I can be a CE cleric of Bahamut, but I can't be a Good Paladin of Corellon? Sense, it is not made. If I help too many people, do Avengers come after me for being too good? Does my god even really give a rat's behind? I mean, what.) [/QUOTE]

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