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<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 3548415" data-attributes="member: 8439">Found myself thinking about this a bit more when I had some involuntary awake time last night, and I wanted to elaborate...The paladin to me is like a zoo worker who sees a foolish person trying to enter the &quot;lions and grizzly cage match&quot; cage. He looks in front of him and sees :1) A net2) A trank gun3) A large pipe wrench 4) A gernadeHe picks up the pipe wrench and smacks the bloke across the back of the head with it. He later explains to the police that he only wanted to stun the deceased, and if he had wanted to kill him he would have just used the genade. Half an hour later give or take commercials there is a DunDUN sound and a title card and ADA Jack McCoy is talking to a jury using phrases like &quot;reckless endangerment&quot; and &quot;depraved indifference to human life&quot;.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> When using intent as a allignment guide (which I feel is an important component) it has to be tempered with a Reasonable Humanoid Test. A paladin whose intent is to protect an innocent from themselves but who forgoes tripping, grappling, subdual damage, intimidation and diplomacy in favor of hoping to do just the right amount of lethal damage and stabalize with a heal check fails that test, and his action is judged by its results. The &quot;killing an innocent&quot; result = go looking for a friendly 9th level cleric.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 3548415, member: 8439"] Found myself thinking about this a bit more when I had some involuntary awake time last night, and I wanted to elaborate... The paladin to me is like a zoo worker who sees a foolish person trying to enter the "lions and grizzly cage match" cage. He looks in front of him and sees : 1) A net 2) A trank gun 3) A large pipe wrench 4) A gernade He picks up the pipe wrench and smacks the bloke across the back of the head with it. He later explains to the police that he only wanted to stun the deceased, and if he had wanted to kill him he would have just used the genade. Half an hour later give or take commercials there is a DunDUN sound and a title card and ADA Jack McCoy is talking to a jury using phrases like "reckless endangerment" and "depraved indifference to human life". ;) When using intent as a allignment guide (which I feel is an important component) it has to be tempered with a Reasonable Humanoid Test. A paladin whose intent is to protect an innocent from themselves but who forgoes tripping, grappling, subdual damage, intimidation and diplomacy in favor of hoping to do just the right amount of lethal damage and stabalize with a heal check fails that test, and his action is judged by its results. The "killing an innocent" result = go looking for a friendly 9th level cleric. [/QUOTE]

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