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<blockquote data-quote="Valmur_Dwur" data-source="post: 281713" data-attributes="member: 5065"><p>Hello Samothdm!</p><p></p><p>I want to get off this wholle alignment thing because as always it gets us nowhere<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> From reading your first post and then down near the end I get 2 differrent impressions. My first upon reading was this: You as the DM made it almost impossible for them to do anything else but kill all of them. Did the cleric ask for surrender of those that were "Mopped up"? Did anyone try to subdue one or more of those that made their save vs sleep? If this has happened before what was the situation then? What I'm driving at is sometimes we as DM's have all these neat plothooks and ideas floating around and we know what we want the players to do but we set it up so that it is impossible to do so. That is what I got out of your original post. Further down I see where you named 5 or so things that the party could have done. One was have an NPC stand guard. Now Did this NPC (who represents those things about your world that the players need to know) remind the party that throat-slitting was not the job hired for? Or that in good concience<sp> they would have to make a report that outlined this most unfortunate mishap that will probably cause the agreed upon fee to be lower or forfeited? My perpective shows that you as DM didn't allow the party to do anything other than slit the throats. Remember you have the duty to allow the pcs as much lee-way as you can in playing, but as you have pointed out, it bothers you to see them do an evil act. Make sure in the future you guide them toward a better resolution for them and you. Please take my ramblings not as an affront to you(you seem to have a great world running<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> ) But as someone who has seen these alignment debates drag on for weeks<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Valmur_Dwur, post: 281713, member: 5065"] Hello Samothdm! I want to get off this wholle alignment thing because as always it gets us nowhere:D From reading your first post and then down near the end I get 2 differrent impressions. My first upon reading was this: You as the DM made it almost impossible for them to do anything else but kill all of them. Did the cleric ask for surrender of those that were "Mopped up"? Did anyone try to subdue one or more of those that made their save vs sleep? If this has happened before what was the situation then? What I'm driving at is sometimes we as DM's have all these neat plothooks and ideas floating around and we know what we want the players to do but we set it up so that it is impossible to do so. That is what I got out of your original post. Further down I see where you named 5 or so things that the party could have done. One was have an NPC stand guard. Now Did this NPC (who represents those things about your world that the players need to know) remind the party that throat-slitting was not the job hired for? Or that in good concience<sp> they would have to make a report that outlined this most unfortunate mishap that will probably cause the agreed upon fee to be lower or forfeited? My perpective shows that you as DM didn't allow the party to do anything other than slit the throats. Remember you have the duty to allow the pcs as much lee-way as you can in playing, but as you have pointed out, it bothers you to see them do an evil act. Make sure in the future you guide them toward a better resolution for them and you. Please take my ramblings not as an affront to you(you seem to have a great world running:D ) But as someone who has seen these alignment debates drag on for weeks:o [/QUOTE]
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