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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rune" data-source="post: 5902226" data-attributes="member: 67">To tell you the truth, I pretty much agree with you.  I am mostly arguing a position I held in 2008.  It illustrates both the beauty of 4e's presentation, and the frustrating part of it.  Once you know it, it's easy to ignore the parts that don't fit your campaign, but it gives you very little in the way of guidelines for doing so.That said, I suppose what really chafed me was less the lack of in-game consequences, than the lack of guidelines for the player about adherence to a moral and ethical code (and maybe some guidelines for constructing such code).I want to see that in the new edition and, equally importantly, I want to see some means in the class description of emphasizing how important that code is to the paladin.</blockquote>