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Alignment shift for intra-party murder?
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<blockquote data-quote="aboyd" data-source="post: 4657245" data-attributes="member: 44797"><p>I have 6 characters. I need to know how to shift alignments after a huge, successful intra-party assassination.</p><p></p><p>The party barbarian didn't get off the sinking boat quickly enough, causing the other players to have to linger in the rescue boat. When they reached shore, the party cleric (a halfling with a tower shield, probably need to look at the rules on that one) was upset. He used his shield to bump the barbarian in the knees (no damage, not an actual attack, but meant to be tough & annoying) and say, "When we say abandon ship, you abandon ship!"</p><p></p><p>The barbarian was infuriated at getting knocked in the knees, and actually spiked-chain attacked the cleric, and critical hit, and the cleric crumpled to the ground.</p><p></p><p>Two other players ignored the whole fight, wandering down the beach, looking for some allies still in the water.</p><p></p><p>Two <em>other</em> other players flanked the barbarian, stunned him, and stabbed him until he died. One of those characters shouted, "You killed our healer!" The healer wasn't dead, but was unconscious.</p><p></p><p>After the barbarian died, the two attackers ran down the shore, got the other two players, and had one of them (a druid) heal the fallen cleric. The fallen cleric tried to heal the barbarian, but he was well & truly dead.</p><p></p><p>At this point, the group as a whole decides that they will not resurrect the barbarian. They loot his corpse.</p><p></p><p>The two characters that were not participating much (the druid & her friend) head back to the lighthouse and go to sleep. The cleric follows. The two other characters who had killed the barbarian decide to flush the barbarian down the lighthouse toilet. He won't fit, I tell them. So they chop him into pieces and flush him away.</p><p></p><p>I have opinions on whether this is evil, chaotic, justified, reasonable, etc. But what do you think about their actions? Remember, we're using the standard 3.5 edition alignment grid. Do you think this one scene is controversial enough to move alignments? On which axis? Do you think there are mitigating circumstances that diminish the severity of the consequences? Do you think that all party members are equal participants?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aboyd, post: 4657245, member: 44797"] I have 6 characters. I need to know how to shift alignments after a huge, successful intra-party assassination. The party barbarian didn't get off the sinking boat quickly enough, causing the other players to have to linger in the rescue boat. When they reached shore, the party cleric (a halfling with a tower shield, probably need to look at the rules on that one) was upset. He used his shield to bump the barbarian in the knees (no damage, not an actual attack, but meant to be tough & annoying) and say, "When we say abandon ship, you abandon ship!" The barbarian was infuriated at getting knocked in the knees, and actually spiked-chain attacked the cleric, and critical hit, and the cleric crumpled to the ground. Two other players ignored the whole fight, wandering down the beach, looking for some allies still in the water. Two [i]other[/i] other players flanked the barbarian, stunned him, and stabbed him until he died. One of those characters shouted, "You killed our healer!" The healer wasn't dead, but was unconscious. After the barbarian died, the two attackers ran down the shore, got the other two players, and had one of them (a druid) heal the fallen cleric. The fallen cleric tried to heal the barbarian, but he was well & truly dead. At this point, the group as a whole decides that they will not resurrect the barbarian. They loot his corpse. The two characters that were not participating much (the druid & her friend) head back to the lighthouse and go to sleep. The cleric follows. The two other characters who had killed the barbarian decide to flush the barbarian down the lighthouse toilet. He won't fit, I tell them. So they chop him into pieces and flush him away. I have opinions on whether this is evil, chaotic, justified, reasonable, etc. But what do you think about their actions? Remember, we're using the standard 3.5 edition alignment grid. Do you think this one scene is controversial enough to move alignments? On which axis? Do you think there are mitigating circumstances that diminish the severity of the consequences? Do you think that all party members are equal participants? [/QUOTE]
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