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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shin Okada" data-source="post: 4657553" data-attributes="member: 1956">#Cleric.No alignment change in good-evil axis. Or maybe shift in good axis as he tried to save even who have had killed the cleric himself.Alignment change in law-good axis. If he happen to be a lawful character, his way of preaching (bashing one with a tower shield) may or may not cause an issue. But it will depend on the philosophy of his religion. And on local law and culture, possibly.#BarbarianNo need to argue much as he is already dead and gone. But maybe no alignment change. Remaining in the ship too long was a foolish act but may not be an evil act.His act of violence is, from modern standard, considered to be injust. But if the PC actually took the shield bash as an attack or challenge for a duel, fighting back could be justified. Or maybe, as he was a barbarian, letting someone kneeling down was a serious enough insult in his tribe. It could have been a cultural misunderstanding, for example.#Two other players ignored the whole fightIt may depend on if they were thinking it to be a serious fight or they were expecting it to be a not-to-death quarrel. #Two who killed the barbarian_KillingBasically, their act will be justified in good-evil axis if they thought that barbarian acutely killed the cleric or at least was trying to kill the cleric.But in lawful-chaotic axis, lynching a member of civilized race could be either perfectly lawful or considered non-lawful. It will depend on world setting, those PCs' religion an philosophy, etc._Chopping down the dead body and putting them into toiletIt will depend on why they wanted to do that. Maybe they needed to do that to make sure that no-one will resurrect the dead barbarian. My players sometimes burn or chop down BBEG's dead body and sprinkle the result into running water when I am using no-house rule.Today, I am using the house rule that shorten the time-limit for spells which bring dead people back to life (even True Resurrection must be cast within hr/caster level). So they don't need to do that usually.In over all, in addition to the acts them selves, each PC's reasoning and motivation for those acts should be counted in. And also, you may better be note that the party may have been a cross-cultural group. Each PCs could have completely different takes on good-evil and law-chaos, because of their religion and their cultural background.</blockquote>

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