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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus" data-source="post: 809052" data-attributes="member: 1077"><p>No, there are two facets to this. The questions asked involved Law/Chaos as well as Good/Evil. The Good thing to do is to not kill the giant, spare him as you would want to be spared in his place. Now we get to the Lawful/Chaotic part of the equation. Do you leave him be (Chaotic) and walk away? Or do you hand him over to the authorities (Lawful)?</p><p></p><p>Sorry, but I don't quite follow the analogy of the doctor/abortion thing as it relates to this. I'm sure it does relate somehow, but I don't see it. Sorry...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, it isn't the adventurer's responsibility or problem any longer. They subdued the menace and now the guards (or whatever authorities are current available, perhaps Wizards who can use magic to banish the fire giant) will deal with them according to their own laws.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, it is a Good act (as DnD defines it, we are still talking in game terms, right?). You protected an innocent from someone committing an evil act. If there was no other way, then you did the right thing. If the murderer surrendered, and you killed him anyway, it would be "evil". If you were able to subdue the murderer easily, but instead used lethal force and killed him, it would be "evil".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is not the same thing. First off, if your brother told you this and you genuinely beleived him, I think the first thing to do would be to talk to him. Get him to listen to reason. Tell him, if such a thing ever happened (Heironeous forbid) it's not worth killing her over. If you felt that he could not listen to reason, I would get someone else involved. Other family members, a shrink (not the spell, the doctor) or the authorities if necessary. If you are willing to beleive he is willing and capable of murder, you should do something about it right away.</p><p></p><p>This would occur even before the gf tried to confide in you.</p><p></p><p>I do not think you are responsible for the actions of others. If I purchase a magic potion from an evil Cleric (whom I did not know was evil, nor did I have any way to find out on my own) and that evil Cleric used the money I payed him to purchase a magic wand, and then proceeded to use that wand to kill innocent people, would I be to blame?</p><p></p><p>Let's not even go that far. Let's say those theives in scenario 1 win the battle, and do not kill you. Instead, they rob you blind, and use your money/items/etc. to harm other people. Are you to blame?</p><p></p><p>I should think not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RigaMortus, post: 809052, member: 1077"] No, there are two facets to this. The questions asked involved Law/Chaos as well as Good/Evil. The Good thing to do is to not kill the giant, spare him as you would want to be spared in his place. Now we get to the Lawful/Chaotic part of the equation. Do you leave him be (Chaotic) and walk away? Or do you hand him over to the authorities (Lawful)? Sorry, but I don't quite follow the analogy of the doctor/abortion thing as it relates to this. I'm sure it does relate somehow, but I don't see it. Sorry... Again, it isn't the adventurer's responsibility or problem any longer. They subdued the menace and now the guards (or whatever authorities are current available, perhaps Wizards who can use magic to banish the fire giant) will deal with them according to their own laws. Yes, it is a Good act (as DnD defines it, we are still talking in game terms, right?). You protected an innocent from someone committing an evil act. If there was no other way, then you did the right thing. If the murderer surrendered, and you killed him anyway, it would be "evil". If you were able to subdue the murderer easily, but instead used lethal force and killed him, it would be "evil". This is not the same thing. First off, if your brother told you this and you genuinely beleived him, I think the first thing to do would be to talk to him. Get him to listen to reason. Tell him, if such a thing ever happened (Heironeous forbid) it's not worth killing her over. If you felt that he could not listen to reason, I would get someone else involved. Other family members, a shrink (not the spell, the doctor) or the authorities if necessary. If you are willing to beleive he is willing and capable of murder, you should do something about it right away. This would occur even before the gf tried to confide in you. I do not think you are responsible for the actions of others. If I purchase a magic potion from an evil Cleric (whom I did not know was evil, nor did I have any way to find out on my own) and that evil Cleric used the money I payed him to purchase a magic wand, and then proceeded to use that wand to kill innocent people, would I be to blame? Let's not even go that far. Let's say those theives in scenario 1 win the battle, and do not kill you. Instead, they rob you blind, and use your money/items/etc. to harm other people. Are you to blame? I should think not. [/QUOTE]
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