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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus" data-source="post: 809667" data-attributes="member: 1077"><p>I see what you are saying now. My interpretation was that the adventurer's do NOT know before hand how the guards will treat the giant, and I was speaking from a purely LG standpoint (as I would play a LG person).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok, the reason I didn't understand this was because you can not compare this in DnD terms. In the real world, whose to say what is and is not moral? In the DnD world, morality is pre-defined. Things that are immoral are Evil, things that are moral are Good. That is why Detect Evil and Detect Good function as they do. If abortion was unequivically undisputed as being immoral, then it is clearly an Evil act. Anyone who does not think so just has an askewed vision of morality. But again, in DnD, Good/Evil and moral/immoral are pre-defined (at least, they should be).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ugh... I misread this... If he merely threatened, then no you have no right to just kill him. Sorry, I read this too fast. I read it as, someone was TRYING to kill your mother, like caught in the act. Sorry for the misunderstanding...</p><p></p><p>If someone merely threatened to kill your mother, I'd probably knock them out (depending on how hot headed I got). The best thing to do is tell the authorities.</p><p></p><p>Now had you come home and saw this scum assaulting your mom, you have every right to use extreme and lethal force.</p><p></p><p>Sorry for the mis-reading-ness <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sorry, I am used to having some form of free-will in DnD. So I would never let it get this far if I could help it. Ever hear the expression, an ounce of protection is worth a pound of cure? Half of the job of a good-guy is to prevent bad things from happening, the other half is to rectify it when they do. This whole thing could be avoided if you take the proper steps. This is a lose-lose question because you are putting unrealistic restrictions on it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, if they know ahead of time. Personally, I'd try to subdue the Cleric and then make him tell me how he got Wands of Destruction! Hehe, I had to say something.</p><p></p><p>$5? What is this weird parchment with a man's face on it? This is no scroll I have ever seen before... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, THEIR ACTIONS... Not the actions of the guards. Again, I'll assume they do NOT know the guards will kill them, voila I am correct. You can assume they DO know the guards will kill them, voila you are correct.</p><p></p><p>Edit - Misspelled some things, and probably still have some typos in there. And fixed voila, thanks Olive!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RigaMortus, post: 809667, member: 1077"] I see what you are saying now. My interpretation was that the adventurer's do NOT know before hand how the guards will treat the giant, and I was speaking from a purely LG standpoint (as I would play a LG person). Ok, the reason I didn't understand this was because you can not compare this in DnD terms. In the real world, whose to say what is and is not moral? In the DnD world, morality is pre-defined. Things that are immoral are Evil, things that are moral are Good. That is why Detect Evil and Detect Good function as they do. If abortion was unequivically undisputed as being immoral, then it is clearly an Evil act. Anyone who does not think so just has an askewed vision of morality. But again, in DnD, Good/Evil and moral/immoral are pre-defined (at least, they should be). Ugh... I misread this... If he merely threatened, then no you have no right to just kill him. Sorry, I read this too fast. I read it as, someone was TRYING to kill your mother, like caught in the act. Sorry for the misunderstanding... If someone merely threatened to kill your mother, I'd probably knock them out (depending on how hot headed I got). The best thing to do is tell the authorities. Now had you come home and saw this scum assaulting your mom, you have every right to use extreme and lethal force. Sorry for the mis-reading-ness :P I'm sorry, I am used to having some form of free-will in DnD. So I would never let it get this far if I could help it. Ever hear the expression, an ounce of protection is worth a pound of cure? Half of the job of a good-guy is to prevent bad things from happening, the other half is to rectify it when they do. This whole thing could be avoided if you take the proper steps. This is a lose-lose question because you are putting unrealistic restrictions on it. Yes, if they know ahead of time. Personally, I'd try to subdue the Cleric and then make him tell me how he got Wands of Destruction! Hehe, I had to say something. $5? What is this weird parchment with a man's face on it? This is no scroll I have ever seen before... :P Yes, THEIR ACTIONS... Not the actions of the guards. Again, I'll assume they do NOT know the guards will kill them, voila I am correct. You can assume they DO know the guards will kill them, voila you are correct. Edit - Misspelled some things, and probably still have some typos in there. And fixed voila, thanks Olive! [/QUOTE]
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