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<blockquote data-quote="Aging Bard" data-source="post: 8293031" data-attributes="member: 7030944"><p>Thanks again everyone for the great discussion. I've been trying to keep up, but it's getting a little tougher. You all talk a lot! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>One thing I want to clarify is my view on Neutral. I view it more as "indifference or unimportance" rather than "in between. I understand how the latter seems intuitive, but I'd like to make the case that it's not.</p><p></p><p>Consider a true European Medieval mindset. As many writers have pointed out (and I'm sure many of you know), very few people play D&D in such a setting, not really. That's because the medieval mindset is WEIRD. I strongly recommend watching Bergman's <em>The Virgin Spring</em>. It's like watching hyper-religious human aliens, their worldview is just that anti-modern. Such a mindset is a strong example of Lawful Neutral. In fact, I'd just call it Lawful, because Good and Evil simply doesn't enter into it. What matters is your place in the feudal order and your place in the religious order. Trying to discuss the morality of serfdom or mutilation punishments would be met will blank stares. The law & order is the order of things.</p><p></p><p>The other Neutral alignments are similar. CN: my code matters, not its impact others; NG: the wellbeing of others matter, not your laws or code; NE: Only I matter. True Neutral means <em>none of it matters</em>. Human concerns about morals and ethics are all artificial. Nature gets on fine without then. And thus you get to Druidism. And yes, True Neutral is another very weird alignment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aging Bard, post: 8293031, member: 7030944"] Thanks again everyone for the great discussion. I've been trying to keep up, but it's getting a little tougher. You all talk a lot! :) One thing I want to clarify is my view on Neutral. I view it more as "indifference or unimportance" rather than "in between. I understand how the latter seems intuitive, but I'd like to make the case that it's not. Consider a true European Medieval mindset. As many writers have pointed out (and I'm sure many of you know), very few people play D&D in such a setting, not really. That's because the medieval mindset is WEIRD. I strongly recommend watching Bergman's [I]The Virgin Spring[/I]. It's like watching hyper-religious human aliens, their worldview is just that anti-modern. Such a mindset is a strong example of Lawful Neutral. In fact, I'd just call it Lawful, because Good and Evil simply doesn't enter into it. What matters is your place in the feudal order and your place in the religious order. Trying to discuss the morality of serfdom or mutilation punishments would be met will blank stares. The law & order is the order of things. The other Neutral alignments are similar. CN: my code matters, not its impact others; NG: the wellbeing of others matter, not your laws or code; NE: Only I matter. True Neutral means [I]none of it matters[/I]. Human concerns about morals and ethics are all artificial. Nature gets on fine without then. And thus you get to Druidism. And yes, True Neutral is another very weird alignment. [/QUOTE]
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