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<blockquote data-quote="Hexmage-EN" data-source="post: 8294754" data-attributes="member: 79428"><p>With all that said, I find myself increasingly agreeing with the earlier comment that the terms "Law" and "Chaos" sound like they were created by a Lawful individual. The Knorr are identified in Jakandor as Chaotic, but that sounds like an extreme term to use for people whose point of view boils down to "oppose authority and believe people should handle disagreements between themselves".</p><p></p><p>...although, the Knorr do also have as a goal the sabotage of another society's attempt to rebuild itself following a plague (because they believe said culture will eventually try to impose its authority on them), so they are actively fighting against the growth of a Lawful society. So I guess actively opposing Lawful society because you think it is inherently bad is Chaotic.</p><p></p><p>I guess the Knorr are kind of like if one of the various "barbarian" civilizations of Europe saw a nation trying to rebuild itself in the image of the fallen Roman Empire and decided that the Empire sounded awful and anyone who idealizes it as the standard for civilization must be opposed before they start imposing their civilization on others.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: I'm also thinking that alignments other than Neutral should be outliers, with descriptors like Good, Evil, Lawful, and Chaotic being assigned to exceptional people. D&D has unfortunately been too loose with assigning alignments that should be exceptional. A Neutral Good person is someone who spends a lot of time and money on helping others and thinks about how to best help others in their free time, not just someone who is generally pleasant. A Chaotic person is someone invested in opposing authority in general through direct action and will go wherever they perceive tyranny to fight it, not just someone who dislikes the current ruler and would be satisfied by a different one (so even a "freedom fighter" wouldn't be Chaotic unless upon achieving victory against one tyrant they sought others elsewhere to rally against; without an unending desire to oppose tyrants wherever they are a person is Neutral with Chaotic tendencies at most).</p><p></p><p>Basically, people with alignments other than Neutral are obsessives who devote most of their waking moments to thinking about or acting towards their causes. Even Neutrality could be taken to an extreme if someone sees strengths and weaknesses in every other alignment and instead seeks to maintain a balance (which is why I'd preferably reserve True Neutral for proponents of the balance and designate most people as Unaligned).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hexmage-EN, post: 8294754, member: 79428"] With all that said, I find myself increasingly agreeing with the earlier comment that the terms "Law" and "Chaos" sound like they were created by a Lawful individual. The Knorr are identified in Jakandor as Chaotic, but that sounds like an extreme term to use for people whose point of view boils down to "oppose authority and believe people should handle disagreements between themselves". ...although, the Knorr do also have as a goal the sabotage of another society's attempt to rebuild itself following a plague (because they believe said culture will eventually try to impose its authority on them), so they are actively fighting against the growth of a Lawful society. So I guess actively opposing Lawful society because you think it is inherently bad is Chaotic. I guess the Knorr are kind of like if one of the various "barbarian" civilizations of Europe saw a nation trying to rebuild itself in the image of the fallen Roman Empire and decided that the Empire sounded awful and anyone who idealizes it as the standard for civilization must be opposed before they start imposing their civilization on others. EDIT: I'm also thinking that alignments other than Neutral should be outliers, with descriptors like Good, Evil, Lawful, and Chaotic being assigned to exceptional people. D&D has unfortunately been too loose with assigning alignments that should be exceptional. A Neutral Good person is someone who spends a lot of time and money on helping others and thinks about how to best help others in their free time, not just someone who is generally pleasant. A Chaotic person is someone invested in opposing authority in general through direct action and will go wherever they perceive tyranny to fight it, not just someone who dislikes the current ruler and would be satisfied by a different one (so even a "freedom fighter" wouldn't be Chaotic unless upon achieving victory against one tyrant they sought others elsewhere to rally against; without an unending desire to oppose tyrants wherever they are a person is Neutral with Chaotic tendencies at most). Basically, people with alignments other than Neutral are obsessives who devote most of their waking moments to thinking about or acting towards their causes. Even Neutrality could be taken to an extreme if someone sees strengths and weaknesses in every other alignment and instead seeks to maintain a balance (which is why I'd preferably reserve True Neutral for proponents of the balance and designate most people as Unaligned). [/QUOTE]
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